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Apparently the new strain is not scary enough to enforce the travel ban in and out of London by law. At the moment the travel ban is advisory only. Make up your

Apparently the new strain is not scary enough to enforce the travel ban in and out of London by law. At the moment the travel ban is advisory only. Make up your own mind.

spuz 6y ago
I thought tier restriction breaches could be punished by fixed penalties? Many have received such penalties.
- oxfordmale 6y ago
  Based on the wording by Boris Johnson the travel ban is advisory. He uses the word should and not must when referring to the travel ban: "People should not enter or leave tier 4 areas, and tier 4 residents must not stay overnight away from home" Travel ban is advisory, overnight stay is banned by law.
  - spuz 6y ago
    Thanks for clarifying. I don't think that's the correct interpretation though. The government advice for tier 4 says: > You must not leave or be outside of your home except for where you have a specific purpose, or a ‘reasonable excuse’ > If you live in a tier 4 area, you must stay at home. You must not leave your home to travel unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons So when Boris says "should" I believe he means "must unless you are in one of the excluded categories". https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-4-stay-at-home#stay-at-home https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-4-stay-at-home#stay-at-home
    - oxfordmale 6y ago
      You might be right, in any case the restrictions are not enforced immediately resulting in the bleeding obvious: (steady stream of traffic leaving London: https://twitter.com/Keyboar58668342/status/1340378874459402241 https://twitter.com/Keyboar58668342/status/13403788744594022...
      - throwaway2245 6y ago
        Isn't that single webcam image consistent with essential workers? The trucks are surely not banned; and it's understandable that people have to go home on a Friday night.
        oxfordmale 6y ago
        There have been other images since that suggests a certain percentage of the London population decided to leave.
throwaway2245 6y ago
I'm not convinced that enforcement particularly matters. When the government advises people to stay at home, most people modify their behaviour. Fining people could arguably create a higher risk, as people would feel they had permission to break the ban if they accept a low risk of being caught and fined, and enforcement would involve more interaction between strangers.

Apparently the new strain is not scary enough to enforce the travel ban in and out of London by law. At the moment the travel ban is advisory only. Make up your own mind.

spuz 6y ago

I thought tier restriction breaches could be punished by fixed penalties? Many have received such penalties.

oxfordmale 6y ago
Based on the wording by Boris Johnson the travel ban is advisory. He uses the word should and not must when referring to the travel ban: "People should not enter or leave tier 4 areas, and tier 4 residents must not stay overnight away from home" Travel ban is advisory, overnight stay is banned by law.
- spuz 6y ago
  Thanks for clarifying. I don't think that's the correct interpretation though. The government advice for tier 4 says: > You must not leave or be outside of your home except for where you have a specific purpose, or a ‘reasonable excuse’ > If you live in a tier 4 area, you must stay at home. You must not leave your home to travel unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons So when Boris says "should" I believe he means "must unless you are in one of the excluded categories". https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-4-stay-at-home#stay-at-home https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-4-stay-at-home#stay-at-home
  - oxfordmale 6y ago
    You might be right, in any case the restrictions are not enforced immediately resulting in the bleeding obvious: (steady stream of traffic leaving London: https://twitter.com/Keyboar58668342/status/1340378874459402241 https://twitter.com/Keyboar58668342/status/13403788744594022...
    - throwaway2245 6y ago
      Isn't that single webcam image consistent with essential workers? The trucks are surely not banned; and it's understandable that people have to go home on a Friday night.
      - oxfordmale 6y ago
        There have been other images since that suggests a certain percentage of the London population decided to leave.

throwaway2245 6y ago

I'm not convinced that enforcement particularly matters. When the government advises people to stay at home, most people modify their behaviour. Fining people could arguably create a higher risk, as people would feel they had permission to break the ban if they accept a low risk of being caught and fined, and enforcement would involve more interaction between strangers.