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Utterly lost me at 'There’s nothing “forced” about the software update', which is true only in the narrowest, least useful sense.

sonotmyname 6y ago
In what sense are iOS updates ‘forced’? It’s a single binary slider in prefs - auto update/don’t.
- izacus 6y ago
  And then you get constantly badgered by notifications and your apps start shutting down because they need a new version of iOS and up-to-date version of app to run. It's not just about the slider.
  - macintux 6y ago
    App developers are making the decision to prioritize newer iOS versions because Apple has been successful at supporting older devices and making updates seamless... ...and suddenly that's a bad thing, despite the security and support advantages. Apple can't win.
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  - sergiomattei 6y ago
    Then 1. Don't use the offending developer's apps 2. Ignore the notifications It really is that simple
    - ksk 6y ago
      Apple uses dark patterns and doesn't provide a "stop bothering me" option. I used to get nagged by Apple so I turned on the auto updates just to not have these popups. I guess it worked.. https://imgur.com/7ErVNiw https://imgur.com/7ErVNiw
- dingaling 6y ago
  Bundling non-security changes in with security updates is 'forcing'. Lovely phone you have there, be a shame if it got hacked.
roblabla 6y ago
Not sure what you mean? In what way is the update 'forced'? It's not being silently installed, it's not like existing apps will suddenly stop working if it isn't applied. This is only "forced" when you look at it from Facebook's perspective, as it'll directly impact their app, they don't control the OS version of their users. But they specifically used the loaded phrase "Forced update" to trigger an emotional response from the reader. Paints Apple as a malicious antagonist.
- Transfinity 6y ago
  Not technically forced since it's not mandatory that update, but not updating is not a viable strategy for most users. If you want new OS features or security patches, or apps that rely on those features, or if you buy a new device, then you don't have an option. Eventually everyone will have this update. So the article is "correct", but not really in a useful way. OTOH, this is more a natural side effect of how software development works than any malicious intent on Apple's part. Letting users opt into specific OS patches would be a maintaince / security nightmare.

sonotmyname 6y ago

In what sense are iOS updates ‘forced’? It’s a single binary slider in prefs - auto update/don’t.

izacus 6y ago
And then you get constantly badgered by notifications and your apps start shutting down because they need a new version of iOS and up-to-date version of app to run. It's not just about the slider.
- macintux 6y ago
  App developers are making the decision to prioritize newer iOS versions because Apple has been successful at supporting older devices and making updates seamless... ...and suddenly that's a bad thing, despite the security and support advantages. Apple can't win.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- sergiomattei 6y ago
  Then 1. Don't use the offending developer's apps 2. Ignore the notifications It really is that simple
  - ksk 6y ago
    Apple uses dark patterns and doesn't provide a "stop bothering me" option. I used to get nagged by Apple so I turned on the auto updates just to not have these popups. I guess it worked.. https://imgur.com/7ErVNiw https://imgur.com/7ErVNiw
dingaling 6y ago
Bundling non-security changes in with security updates is 'forcing'. Lovely phone you have there, be a shame if it got hacked.

roblabla 6y ago

Not sure what you mean? In what way is the update 'forced'? It's not being silently installed, it's not like existing apps will suddenly stop working if it isn't applied. This is only "forced" when you look at it from Facebook's perspective, as it'll directly impact their app, they don't control the OS version of their users. But they specifically used the loaded phrase "Forced update" to trigger an emotional response from the reader. Paints Apple as a malicious antagonist.

Transfinity 6y ago
Not technically forced since it's not mandatory that update, but not updating is not a viable strategy for most users. If you want new OS features or security patches, or apps that rely on those features, or if you buy a new device, then you don't have an option. Eventually everyone will have this update. So the article is "correct", but not really in a useful way. OTOH, this is more a natural side effect of how software development works than any malicious intent on Apple's part. Letting users opt into specific OS patches would be a maintaince / security nightmare.