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> Facebook’s argument is along the lines of arguing that the police shouldn’t crack down on burglaries because doing so might hurt pawn shops that have been thr

> Facebook’s argument is along the lines of arguing that the police shouldn’t crack down on burglaries because doing so might hurt pawn shops that have been thriving during a years-long crime spree. Except that Facebook isn't benefitting from criminal activity, is it? This is a case of a classically naive public who really doesn't care one way or the other.

legulere 6y ago
At least in Europe you could very well think so with the GDPR.
- neodymiumphish 6y ago
  They've been fined for where they've violated the law. I'd argue not enough, but that's the fault of the regulators and lawmakers. Still doesn't put FB's activities comparable to the pawn shop analogy unless there are valid claims that these other apps and sites are breaking the law in the data they collect and provide to Facebook.
  - d3nj4l 6y ago
    Facebook has only been fined once for GDPR violations, and that has to do with a bureaucratic technicality. The actual cases against Facebook have been held up for ages [1]. You can look up all GDPR fines here: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ 1: https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter
thrwn_frthr_awy 6y ago
> This is a case of a classically naive public who really doesn't care one way or the other. It is hard to know whether or not someone cares about something when they have no choice. Most of my family members think their devices are listening to them constantly, but what are their options? They aren't going to get rid of their phones and TVs.
inetknght 6y ago
> Except that Facebook isn't benefitting from criminal activity, is it? Facebook's activities may very well be illegal (eg: criminal) given the allegations in the recent lawsuit filed against Google. The people using Facebook to perpetuate frauds often pay Facebook for advertisements and that can be interpreted to benefit from criminal activity.

legulere 6y ago

At least in Europe you could very well think so with the GDPR.

neodymiumphish 6y ago
They've been fined for where they've violated the law. I'd argue not enough, but that's the fault of the regulators and lawmakers. Still doesn't put FB's activities comparable to the pawn shop analogy unless there are valid claims that these other apps and sites are breaking the law in the data they collect and provide to Facebook.
- d3nj4l 6y ago
  Facebook has only been fined once for GDPR violations, and that has to do with a bureaucratic technicality. The actual cases against Facebook have been held up for ages [1]. You can look up all GDPR fines here: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ 1: https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter https://noyb.eu/en/open-letter

thrwn_frthr_awy 6y ago

> This is a case of a classically naive public who really doesn't care one way or the other. It is hard to know whether or not someone cares about something when they have no choice. Most of my family members think their devices are listening to them constantly, but what are their options? They aren't going to get rid of their phones and TVs.

inetknght 6y ago

> Except that Facebook isn't benefitting from criminal activity, is it? Facebook's activities may very well be illegal (eg: criminal) given the allegations in the recent lawsuit filed against Google. The people using Facebook to perpetuate frauds often pay Facebook for advertisements and that can be interpreted to benefit from criminal activity.