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> Performance on last gen aside I think there's your problem, because the majority of people are playing on last gen, as advertised that it would work there.

gambiting 6y ago
Except that's not true and I don't know where the assumption comes from. CDPR clearly said that majority of sales so far have been on PC. And then they repeated that they have no way of knowing which platform you're actually playing that last-gen version on - so people playing the PS4 game on the PS5(where the game runs absolutely fine) still count as PS4 sales.
- kungito 6y ago
  It's really unbelievable that in today's time of data collection they are incapable of knowing the freaking platform name on which the game runs on. Don't they have any ingame online services or just straight up get the data from Sony. This cannot be true. Edit: what could be is that they just didn't build a data collection pipeline for this seeing as how they didn't do half of the planned stuff
- thrwyoilarticle 6y ago
  > people playing the PS4 game on the PS5(where the game runs absolutely fine) still count as PS4 sales. Because it's a PS4 game. There isn't a PS5 release. I assume software I buy runs on the hardware it's designed for.
- fogihujy 6y ago
  Last-gen Xbox owner here. Lots of us were hyped about this game, and expected it to be the last major must-have game of the generation, because that's what CDPR has implied all along for the last half-decade. Now, it seems to end up in the same category as Dragon Age: Inquisition on the Xbox 360; possibly playable after a few patches, but nowhere near a state which makes the game justice.
  - ck425 6y ago
    I remember trying to play DA:I on 360 and how much better it was on PS4. As soon as I heard the Cyberpunk PS4 reviews I took the money I had aside for Cyberpunk and got Miles Morales instead. I'll be playing Cyberpunk in new years/spring when there's more PS5 stock, an official version and a few patches.
- netsectoday 6y ago
  > so people playing the PS4 game on the PS5(where the game runs absolutely fine) still count as PS4 sales The PS5 version has some crisp visuals and better frame-rate but it still has floating people, vehicles that forget about collision detection, crappy AI, cars that drive on rails, horrible pop-in effect, and gunfights where you can't take down some pissed off guy on the street without 50 direct headshots. As for the story; I chose the corpo path and within 15 minutes of cutscenes and limited movement "gameplay" I'm on the street as some punk, never getting to experience anything close to what was marketed as the corpo path. A few hours in I began to get lost in the world and enjoyed the advanced gameplay mechanics. They really went all-out with what you can do in the game, but then once the cinema-quality quest is finished I'm thrown back into the sloppy unfinished open-world.
xiphias2 6y ago
When I looked at the videos, I haven't even thought that it's possible to get so many light effects out of 7 year old cards. It turns out it isn't.
- 83457 6y ago
  There are some huge, amazing looking games on PS4 and Xbox One. It is less an issue of capability and more an issue of Cyberpunk 2077 not being sufficiently optimized for them. The game was delayed multiple times. If it was released earlier the console version would have only been played on the previous gen. Makes me wonder if the delays were in large part to wait on new gen to come out in order to lower the need for optimization of older gen. I guess they should have waited another year.
  - xiphias2 6y ago
    They should have made a better deal with PS5 and the new Xbox, as many gamers want to buy the new consoles just to be able to play Cyberpunk (I'm getting a PS5 for my friend for Christmas to play it, though it will take more time to get it of course)
mthoms 6y ago
I've always wondered, don't Sony/Microsoft do their own QA before releasing a title on their platforms?
- maccard 6y ago
  They do, but it's not "qa" in the sense of are there any bugs in the game, there's a checklist you have to adhere to and as long as you adhere to it, you're good. It mostly checks stuff like if you've got voice chat, do you respect parental controls,or are you using any undocumented APIs, or does the game crash under "normal use". An unstable game can pass these was checks, and there are no guarantees of quality from this process. (Disclaimer: I work on Fortnite, have ample experience with making sure the rules are followed)
  - mthoms 6y ago
    That makes sense, thanks.
Meekro 6y ago
It's like if you play Witcher 3 on the Nintendo Switch-- it technically works, but it's also a predictably blurry mess. Anyone who's read up on Cyberpunk knows that it's going to strain even the best gaming PCs, so it should be no surprise that it barely runs on last gen consoles.
- nailer 6y ago
  PC gaming culture (you can play it on that rig but it'll barely run) Vs console gaming culture (it should work and performance shouldn't be a thing you think about)
- smileybarry 6y ago
  It's not fair to compare home console ports to Nintendo Switch ports, a mobile console with a mobile-grade Soc. Some graphics and performance losses are expected and excusable, depending on whether it's still worth it to you. Every trailer labeled "Nintendo Switch" shows footage taken from an actual Switch; you can at least gauge how well it runs or whether visuals are good or not. (And there's tech reviewers like Digital Foundry) Comparably, Cyberpunk's most recent gameplay demo was purely next-gen (and "mid-gen" like PS4 Pro), and reviewers were playing on PC and not allowed to show footage. You couldn't know about X1/PS4 experience until it was too late. > Anyone who's read up on Cyberpunk knows that it's going to strain even the best gaming PCs, so it should be no surprise that it barely runs on last gen consoles. This game was announced when PS4/X1 just came out, even if you account for development starting years later that's still within the peak of their cycle. If it weren't for the last 3 delays (only 7 months combined), Cyberpunk would be releasing on those same consoles before PS5 was even announced. 15-24FPS, 540p gameplay would not be acceptable then and it should not be acceptable now.
  - Meekro 6y ago
    You make some good points, so let me try to better explain where I was coming from. There are certain games-- the ones that get all the PC gamers to buy new graphics cards when it's about to come out. When there's a game like that coming out soon, I just know it's going to run like shit on console and everyone's going to complain. This was true when Crysis came out in 2007: all the PC gamers upgraded their graphics cards to play it, and the guys on Xbox360 just had to put up with a blurry mess running at 20fps. Same thing happened with Just Cause 3 in 2015. A bunch of others, too. I don't mean to say that it's okay; if you sell the game on a certain console, one would hope that it'd run well there. I just think it's entirely predictable which games are going to have this problem (it's the ones that got the PC gamers to buy new graphics cards so it would even run), and then I'll hop online and everyone's talking like it took them by surprise.

gambiting 6y ago

Except that's not true and I don't know where the assumption comes from. CDPR clearly said that majority of sales so far have been on PC. And then they repeated that they have no way of knowing which platform you're actually playing that last-gen version on - so people playing the PS4 game on the PS5(where the game runs absolutely fine) still count as PS4 sales.

kungito 6y ago
It's really unbelievable that in today's time of data collection they are incapable of knowing the freaking platform name on which the game runs on. Don't they have any ingame online services or just straight up get the data from Sony. This cannot be true. Edit: what could be is that they just didn't build a data collection pipeline for this seeing as how they didn't do half of the planned stuff
thrwyoilarticle 6y ago
> people playing the PS4 game on the PS5(where the game runs absolutely fine) still count as PS4 sales. Because it's a PS4 game. There isn't a PS5 release. I assume software I buy runs on the hardware it's designed for.
fogihujy 6y ago
Last-gen Xbox owner here. Lots of us were hyped about this game, and expected it to be the last major must-have game of the generation, because that's what CDPR has implied all along for the last half-decade. Now, it seems to end up in the same category as Dragon Age: Inquisition on the Xbox 360; possibly playable after a few patches, but nowhere near a state which makes the game justice.
- ck425 6y ago
  I remember trying to play DA:I on 360 and how much better it was on PS4. As soon as I heard the Cyberpunk PS4 reviews I took the money I had aside for Cyberpunk and got Miles Morales instead. I'll be playing Cyberpunk in new years/spring when there's more PS5 stock, an official version and a few patches.
netsectoday 6y ago
> so people playing the PS4 game on the PS5(where the game runs absolutely fine) still count as PS4 sales The PS5 version has some crisp visuals and better frame-rate but it still has floating people, vehicles that forget about collision detection, crappy AI, cars that drive on rails, horrible pop-in effect, and gunfights where you can't take down some pissed off guy on the street without 50 direct headshots. As for the story; I chose the corpo path and within 15 minutes of cutscenes and limited movement "gameplay" I'm on the street as some punk, never getting to experience anything close to what was marketed as the corpo path. A few hours in I began to get lost in the world and enjoyed the advanced gameplay mechanics. They really went all-out with what you can do in the game, but then once the cinema-quality quest is finished I'm thrown back into the sloppy unfinished open-world.

xiphias2 6y ago

When I looked at the videos, I haven't even thought that it's possible to get so many light effects out of 7 year old cards. It turns out it isn't.

83457 6y ago
There are some huge, amazing looking games on PS4 and Xbox One. It is less an issue of capability and more an issue of Cyberpunk 2077 not being sufficiently optimized for them. The game was delayed multiple times. If it was released earlier the console version would have only been played on the previous gen. Makes me wonder if the delays were in large part to wait on new gen to come out in order to lower the need for optimization of older gen. I guess they should have waited another year.
- xiphias2 6y ago
  They should have made a better deal with PS5 and the new Xbox, as many gamers want to buy the new consoles just to be able to play Cyberpunk (I'm getting a PS5 for my friend for Christmas to play it, though it will take more time to get it of course)

mthoms 6y ago

I've always wondered, don't Sony/Microsoft do their own QA before releasing a title on their platforms?

maccard 6y ago
They do, but it's not "qa" in the sense of are there any bugs in the game, there's a checklist you have to adhere to and as long as you adhere to it, you're good. It mostly checks stuff like if you've got voice chat, do you respect parental controls,or are you using any undocumented APIs, or does the game crash under "normal use". An unstable game can pass these was checks, and there are no guarantees of quality from this process. (Disclaimer: I work on Fortnite, have ample experience with making sure the rules are followed)
- mthoms 6y ago
  That makes sense, thanks.

Meekro 6y ago

It's like if you play Witcher 3 on the Nintendo Switch-- it technically works, but it's also a predictably blurry mess. Anyone who's read up on Cyberpunk knows that it's going to strain even the best gaming PCs, so it should be no surprise that it barely runs on last gen consoles.

nailer 6y ago
PC gaming culture (you can play it on that rig but it'll barely run) Vs console gaming culture (it should work and performance shouldn't be a thing you think about)
smileybarry 6y ago
It's not fair to compare home console ports to Nintendo Switch ports, a mobile console with a mobile-grade Soc. Some graphics and performance losses are expected and excusable, depending on whether it's still worth it to you. Every trailer labeled "Nintendo Switch" shows footage taken from an actual Switch; you can at least gauge how well it runs or whether visuals are good or not. (And there's tech reviewers like Digital Foundry) Comparably, Cyberpunk's most recent gameplay demo was purely next-gen (and "mid-gen" like PS4 Pro), and reviewers were playing on PC and not allowed to show footage. You couldn't know about X1/PS4 experience until it was too late. > Anyone who's read up on Cyberpunk knows that it's going to strain even the best gaming PCs, so it should be no surprise that it barely runs on last gen consoles. This game was announced when PS4/X1 just came out, even if you account for development starting years later that's still within the peak of their cycle. If it weren't for the last 3 delays (only 7 months combined), Cyberpunk would be releasing on those same consoles before PS5 was even announced. 15-24FPS, 540p gameplay would not be acceptable then and it should not be acceptable now.
- Meekro 6y ago
  You make some good points, so let me try to better explain where I was coming from. There are certain games-- the ones that get all the PC gamers to buy new graphics cards when it's about to come out. When there's a game like that coming out soon, I just know it's going to run like shit on console and everyone's going to complain. This was true when Crysis came out in 2007: all the PC gamers upgraded their graphics cards to play it, and the guys on Xbox360 just had to put up with a blurry mess running at 20fps. Same thing happened with Just Cause 3 in 2015. A bunch of others, too. I don't mean to say that it's okay; if you sell the game on a certain console, one would hope that it'd run well there. I just think it's entirely predictable which games are going to have this problem (it's the ones that got the PC gamers to buy new graphics cards so it would even run), and then I'll hop online and everyone's talking like it took them by surprise.