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> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're

> The only thing that doesn't wear off is understanding that you wont get any sympathy for the real situations you get into for the rest of your life If you're wealthy, why would you expect sympathy for anything other than terminal illness of yourself or your loved ones? (or similar issues you have no control over) Because for all other issues, you can just call up a service, pay them and have the problem go away.

vmception 6y ago
its actually worse than that, its complete apathy. its understanding that people will feel prideful about loudly expressing their complete apathy over whatever problem you have. wealthy people have problems, you can make a lot and improve your own network by simply listening and being that service.
9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago
95% of the America is wealthy for and compared to me, also compared to the most of the world. Doesn't mean I can't be compassionate about your working class problems etc. All the problems in my life, for you are a phone call away too.
winfred 6y ago
At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me. I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications. Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when friends hired others. Maybe there's a point where you have enough money to hire highly qualified people. But I doubt it's anywhere below $10M net worth. Below that you're just not likely to start handing out $150 per hour for what I would consider fairly standard yard or other work. At least I'm not. Or maybe the trick is to hire a supervisor as well. So first you hire someone to do the work and then you hire someone to supervise it. Unless of course the supervisor also does a bad job. But then I can hire a supervisor for the supervisor. Most likely I just wasn't good enough in the hiring process. So I probably should have hired someone to do the hiring for me. But what if I hired the wrong person, because I'm not good at hiring? Now I'm sitting on piles of money and I'm still doing everything myself.
- bigbubba 6y ago
  150/hr for fairly standard yard work? Shit, I used to do 'fairly standard' yard work for a twentieth of that. Or do you mean hiring an entire team of people at that rate?
- porknubbins 6y ago
  I’ve found that hiring anyone to do anything custom one off as an individual is extremely hard as you pointed out. You are much better off knowing someone in the business who will do it for you as a favor or recommend someone to do it. So I guess it comes down to connections or relationships and if you’re a typical well off transplant in a big city connections to blue collar workers are typically very lacking.
- antisthenes 6y ago
  I think I understand your dilemma. Just earlier this year, I was quoted $795 to run a thermostat wire 10 feet, no drilling required. Task Rabbit has people charging north of $80/hr for simple yard work (leaf collection, bush trimming, super standard stuff that a teenager could do). Sure, I could gamble with a cheap contractor, but if they do something badly, it's going to cost 2x as much to redo it properly. I honestly don't know if I'll ever reach a net worth where I'm comfortable paying people more per hour than my own job, with the possible exception of doctors.
- commiserate 6y ago
  I have the exact same problem. It’s impossible to find competent labor that is willing to do what they’re told. I want my baby’s laundry hand washed. I want the towels to be dried in low heat. I want to use wooden spoons on my expensive enamel pans. Instead housekeepers routinely disobey and then lie about it. And a home chef is unrepentant about scratching my pans with metal utensils. They just don’t care. If it were their own things they would put more thought and labor into it. I have to get on my hands and knees to scrub the floor after some recalcitrant $70/hour pair of maids refuse to do anything more than wipe the grime back and forth with a swiferjet.
- vmception 6y ago
  There is an art to this... it mostly comes down to recommendations though. you shouldn’t expect to find good help immediately. the gig economy platforms make it seem like it, but its not the case.

vmception 6y ago

its actually worse than that, its complete apathy. its understanding that people will feel prideful about loudly expressing their complete apathy over whatever problem you have. wealthy people have problems, you can make a lot and improve your own network by simply listening and being that service.

9HZZRfNlpR 6y ago

95% of the America is wealthy for and compared to me, also compared to the most of the world. Doesn't mean I can't be compassionate about your working class problems etc. All the problems in my life, for you are a phone call away too.

winfred 6y ago

At some point, I tried this as an experiment. Instead of doing things myself, I tried to hire people to do it for me. I tried a few different things, data labeling, custom sewing work, custom car modifications. Turns out that the work was either done badly when it came to fairly common tasks or people refused to outright do it when it was custom work. I've seen the same thing when I looked at what happened when friends hired others. Maybe there's a point where you have enough money to hire highly qualified people. But I doubt it's anywhere below $10M net worth. Below that you're just not likely to start handing out $150 per hour for what I would consider fairly standard yard or other work. At least I'm not. Or maybe the trick is to hire a supervisor as well. So first you hire someone to do the work and then you hire someone to supervise it. Unless of course the supervisor also does a bad job. But then I can hire a supervisor for the supervisor. Most likely I just wasn't good enough in the hiring process. So I probably should have hired someone to do the hiring for me. But what if I hired the wrong person, because I'm not good at hiring? Now I'm sitting on piles of money and I'm still doing everything myself.

bigbubba 6y ago
150/hr for fairly standard yard work? Shit, I used to do 'fairly standard' yard work for a twentieth of that. Or do you mean hiring an entire team of people at that rate?
porknubbins 6y ago
I’ve found that hiring anyone to do anything custom one off as an individual is extremely hard as you pointed out. You are much better off knowing someone in the business who will do it for you as a favor or recommend someone to do it. So I guess it comes down to connections or relationships and if you’re a typical well off transplant in a big city connections to blue collar workers are typically very lacking.
antisthenes 6y ago
I think I understand your dilemma. Just earlier this year, I was quoted $795 to run a thermostat wire 10 feet, no drilling required. Task Rabbit has people charging north of $80/hr for simple yard work (leaf collection, bush trimming, super standard stuff that a teenager could do). Sure, I could gamble with a cheap contractor, but if they do something badly, it's going to cost 2x as much to redo it properly. I honestly don't know if I'll ever reach a net worth where I'm comfortable paying people more per hour than my own job, with the possible exception of doctors.
commiserate 6y ago
I have the exact same problem. It’s impossible to find competent labor that is willing to do what they’re told. I want my baby’s laundry hand washed. I want the towels to be dried in low heat. I want to use wooden spoons on my expensive enamel pans. Instead housekeepers routinely disobey and then lie about it. And a home chef is unrepentant about scratching my pans with metal utensils. They just don’t care. If it were their own things they would put more thought and labor into it. I have to get on my hands and knees to scrub the floor after some recalcitrant $70/hour pair of maids refuse to do anything more than wipe the grime back and forth with a swiferjet.
vmception 6y ago
There is an art to this... it mostly comes down to recommendations though. you shouldn’t expect to find good help immediately. the gig economy platforms make it seem like it, but its not the case.