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How is it corruption if it's the official policy to auction off some of the vaccine to top bidders? It’s basically a tax on the wealthy.

aqme28 6y ago
How is that preferable to a regular tax on the wealthy?
- umeshunni 6y ago
  Because a regular tax wouldn't get them vaccines
  - aqme28 6y ago
    That's kind of the idea. A regular tax and distribution also wouldn't keep vaccines from people who need them most.
- justicezyx 6y ago
  They are not countering each other, do they? Why not do both? And ATM why not execute a measure that is the one more acceptable to everyone, I.e. auction? I doubt any typical citizens would be mad at auction off 1% and use the fund to increase the total supply by 10% or even 100%.
  - aqme28 6y ago
    Because the distribution proposed is taking vaccines away from the people who need them most. If the problem is funding, then lets raise funds. We don't need to sacrifice our vaccine distribution for that.
    - justicezyx 6y ago
      Did you see the number I am proposing? How is that getting 110% or even 200% of the planned supply "taking away from the people who need them most"? I think it's quite easy to setup the logistics of auction in such a way that it would have no impact on the distribution to the normal people. The rich can utilize their own expensive network of operators or let them figure out a way to get their precious vaccines and leave the mass infrastructure for the people needs them most. "Let's raise funds" auction is rasing funds. And it's perfectly sensible to setup other channels of fund raising as well. And again, auction is not countering anything else one can propose. It's about getting the rich to shoulder their fair share of running the society. After all their fortune comes from the society, they have more stake in maintaining and keep it running.
      - aqme28 6y ago
        You're assuming that more money can increase the supply, but I don't believe that is true.
  - wmf 6y ago
    The supply of vaccine doesn't appear to be constrained by money.
    - justicezyx 6y ago
      Oh, that's something I don't expect. Then it makes less sense to do auction. But, I still need evidence that money is not the constraints, or it could not help resolve other constraints. Please enlighten me with what you know.
- creddit 6y ago
  Did I say it was?

aqme28 6y ago

How is that preferable to a regular tax on the wealthy?

umeshunni 6y ago
Because a regular tax wouldn't get them vaccines
- aqme28 6y ago
  That's kind of the idea. A regular tax and distribution also wouldn't keep vaccines from people who need them most.
justicezyx 6y ago
They are not countering each other, do they? Why not do both? And ATM why not execute a measure that is the one more acceptable to everyone, I.e. auction? I doubt any typical citizens would be mad at auction off 1% and use the fund to increase the total supply by 10% or even 100%.
- aqme28 6y ago
  Because the distribution proposed is taking vaccines away from the people who need them most. If the problem is funding, then lets raise funds. We don't need to sacrifice our vaccine distribution for that.
  - justicezyx 6y ago
    Did you see the number I am proposing? How is that getting 110% or even 200% of the planned supply "taking away from the people who need them most"? I think it's quite easy to setup the logistics of auction in such a way that it would have no impact on the distribution to the normal people. The rich can utilize their own expensive network of operators or let them figure out a way to get their precious vaccines and leave the mass infrastructure for the people needs them most. "Let's raise funds" auction is rasing funds. And it's perfectly sensible to setup other channels of fund raising as well. And again, auction is not countering anything else one can propose. It's about getting the rich to shoulder their fair share of running the society. After all their fortune comes from the society, they have more stake in maintaining and keep it running.
    - aqme28 6y ago
      You're assuming that more money can increase the supply, but I don't believe that is true.
- wmf 6y ago
  The supply of vaccine doesn't appear to be constrained by money.
  - justicezyx 6y ago
    Oh, that's something I don't expect. Then it makes less sense to do auction. But, I still need evidence that money is not the constraints, or it could not help resolve other constraints. Please enlighten me with what you know.
creddit 6y ago
Did I say it was?