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I think you're giving deams a pathological importance, unless you're using the term very creatively (e.g. the wish to not live in unbearable pain or something).

abellerose 6y ago
The ability to be able to pursue a lifelong dream may become impossible and I wouldn't hold it against a person ending their life. Unbearable pain could be psychological pain from no longer being able to pursue a lifelong dream. I'm actually surprised I was downvoted for this opinion on here with only your response. Of course not everyone should end their life because there is a lot in life that one can do but I still wouldn't hold it against someone that did.
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- jonex 6y ago
  I wouldn't hold anything against a person wanting to end their own life as I haven't been in their shoes. Barring that caveat, coupling your life to a dream does seem pathological - I would worry that someone ending their life for something like that are throwing away a decent chance to still end up with a overall good, fully lived life. It's important to consider that you can have rough patches in live but recover well. The largest tragedies are when people react on short term mental pain by giving up, where they would have changed their mind if just holding out for just a bit longer. The person who might feel like there's nothing to live for after having to give up their dream might just have their true love around the corner or maybe just a few session with a therapist would have given them a new perspective, finding joy in the moment, etc. While I didn't downvote - my guess would be that your message was received as support towards the idea that suicide would be a reasonable and healthy reaction to not reaching your dreams - an idea that in itself could make someone consider the option.
  - abellerose 6y ago
    The idea that someone should live a certain way is narcissistic though. Also it feels inherently about forcing one's personal belief of death upon another. True love may be the meaning of life for someone while the dream one couldn't pursue anymore for the person that committed suicide was the meaning of his/her life. Oh, I just think people are to quick to react nowadays without much thought.

abellerose 6y ago

The ability to be able to pursue a lifelong dream may become impossible and I wouldn't hold it against a person ending their life. Unbearable pain could be psychological pain from no longer being able to pursue a lifelong dream. I'm actually surprised I was downvoted for this opinion on here with only your response. Of course not everyone should end their life because there is a lot in life that one can do but I still wouldn't hold it against someone that did.

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jonex 6y ago
I wouldn't hold anything against a person wanting to end their own life as I haven't been in their shoes. Barring that caveat, coupling your life to a dream does seem pathological - I would worry that someone ending their life for something like that are throwing away a decent chance to still end up with a overall good, fully lived life. It's important to consider that you can have rough patches in live but recover well. The largest tragedies are when people react on short term mental pain by giving up, where they would have changed their mind if just holding out for just a bit longer. The person who might feel like there's nothing to live for after having to give up their dream might just have their true love around the corner or maybe just a few session with a therapist would have given them a new perspective, finding joy in the moment, etc. While I didn't downvote - my guess would be that your message was received as support towards the idea that suicide would be a reasonable and healthy reaction to not reaching your dreams - an idea that in itself could make someone consider the option.
- abellerose 6y ago
  The idea that someone should live a certain way is narcissistic though. Also it feels inherently about forcing one's personal belief of death upon another. True love may be the meaning of life for someone while the dream one couldn't pursue anymore for the person that committed suicide was the meaning of his/her life. Oh, I just think people are to quick to react nowadays without much thought.