> I don’t think you’re making any point here about confusion you’re just ranting. How uncharitable. > If I were to try and extract some coherent positive thou

> I don’t think you’re making any point here about confusion you’re just ranting. How uncharitable. > If I were to try and extract some coherent positive thought out of this, I’d say a website that tracks and allows discussion of ingredients and products that are good/bad would be interesting so we could stop bikeshedding on naming when obviously there exist many levels of better/worse foods and ingredients. That's basically it. I'd hazard a guess that at least some "ultra-processed" ingredients don't have any effect on you at all. Some might even be positive. People take medication for health conditions after all, and they help them live longer, higher quality lives. What could be more ultra-processed than that? Scientists and engineers don't generally tolerate painting with such a broad brush, and it's at least obvious to me that there are several confounding variables here other than the artificial ingredients themselves (super high calorie density, for example).