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dendrite.matrix.org is being slightly hugged to death by being on the front page of HN, but we're about to redeploy it with a fix. (All these guest accounts sh

dendrite.matrix.org is being slightly hugged to death by being on the front page of HN, but we're about to redeploy it with a fix. (All these guest accounts shouldn't be generating bcrypt passwords ;P) Meanwhile, happy to answer any questions about the Cerulean mad science experiment :)

cmonagle 6y ago
This is a really interesting use of the protocol and looks very cool, congratulations! I am curious how this experiment fits with the longer term goals for the project. Do you see Matrix as a social media protocol in addition to chat? If so, do you have plans to integrate with the fediverse/speak ActivityPub?
- Arathorn 6y ago
  Matrix is a generic realtime data sync protocol, so yes - we always built it with general social media uses in mind as well as chat (as well as VoIP, VR/AR, IoT etc). Hopefully someone will build an ActivityPub bridge now that Cerulean exists! :)
  - Arathorn 6y ago
    (more importantly, surely we need a HN bridge!)
Arathorn 6y ago
We're having way too much fun live-profiling and optimising Dendrite thanks to the impromptu load test :D Sorry the server bounces a bit, but we're deploying stuff like https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/pull/1666 https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/pull/1666
vlmutolo 6y ago
A week or so ago, you mentioned on HN [1] that Matrix is in a pretty good position to support a Discus-like comment section for personal blogs and articles. I think something like Cerulean may even be a better idea. It would probably be straightforward to just make every blog post create a corresponding Cerulean/Matrix post and then have a link to it automatically inserted into the bottom of the post. One question I have, though, is how performant it is to have thousands and thousands of these small Matrix rooms around. Are rooms that lightweight? One for each post seems like it could be a lot, but I'm not familiar with the intended internals for servers to use in how they represent rooms. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25336352 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25336352
- Arathorn 6y ago
  yup, rooms are lightweight - not much heavier than just sending a message. I suspect the only reason that people assume they are heavyweight is psychological because in real life rooms are... heavy :) Totally agreed that turning Cerulean into a Disqus-clone would be awesome; hopefully someone will pick it up and do so!

cmonagle 6y ago

This is a really interesting use of the protocol and looks very cool, congratulations! I am curious how this experiment fits with the longer term goals for the project. Do you see Matrix as a social media protocol in addition to chat? If so, do you have plans to integrate with the fediverse/speak ActivityPub?

Arathorn 6y ago
Matrix is a generic realtime data sync protocol, so yes - we always built it with general social media uses in mind as well as chat (as well as VoIP, VR/AR, IoT etc). Hopefully someone will build an ActivityPub bridge now that Cerulean exists! :)
- Arathorn 6y ago
  (more importantly, surely we need a HN bridge!)

Arathorn 6y ago

We're having way too much fun live-profiling and optimising Dendrite thanks to the impromptu load test :D Sorry the server bounces a bit, but we're deploying stuff like https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/pull/1666 https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite/pull/1666

vlmutolo 6y ago

A week or so ago, you mentioned on HN [1] that Matrix is in a pretty good position to support a Discus-like comment section for personal blogs and articles. I think something like Cerulean may even be a better idea. It would probably be straightforward to just make every blog post create a corresponding Cerulean/Matrix post and then have a link to it automatically inserted into the bottom of the post. One question I have, though, is how performant it is to have thousands and thousands of these small Matrix rooms around. Are rooms that lightweight? One for each post seems like it could be a lot, but I'm not familiar with the intended internals for servers to use in how they represent rooms. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25336352 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25336352

Arathorn 6y ago
yup, rooms are lightweight - not much heavier than just sending a message. I suspect the only reason that people assume they are heavyweight is psychological because in real life rooms are... heavy :) Totally agreed that turning Cerulean into a Disqus-clone would be awesome; hopefully someone will pick it up and do so!