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This comment left me wondering: What's the astronomy equivalent of “in mice”?

by flobosg 6y ago

checkyoursudo 6y ago
Gotta be something like "(but it's probably not aliens)", right?
- rob74 6y ago
  Could you use "non-biogenic" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/biogenic https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/biogenic) for a thing like radio emissions?
  - DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
    That still suggests a _machine race_ could have sent it.
    - cercatrova 6y ago
      We could define intelligent life as being any of a sapient species, regardless of physical composition. That's helps do away with only carbon-based lifeforms.
      - MichaelZuo 6y ago
        What would be the definition of sapience for a machine civilization?
        cercatrova 6y ago
        Same as for humans. Or a hive mind, or some other type.
        MichaelZuo 6y ago
        Which is? Common dictionaries, such as Oxford, state: Sapient 1. Wise, or attempting to appear wise. 2. Relating to the human species. Where 1. wise is defined: Having or showing experience, knowledge, and good judgement. Hard to see how that would apply to a hypothetical hive or machine drone civilization with only a single ‘wise’ controller. 2. Clearly not applicable.
        a_t48 6y ago
        Sentience might be a better word.
        cercatrova 6y ago
        Why wouldn't 1 work? Basically it's a species that is at least as intelligent as us and can carry out civilization, including scientific and technological progress. It may or may not be sentient as well, see Blindsight for example.
  - kjs3 6y ago
    Perhaps "naturally occurring" would be more clear to the layman. Until proven otherwise.
not_kurt_godel 6y ago
"alien world" > Scientists think they've detected radio emissions from an alien world https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/scientists-think-theyve-detected-radio-emissions-from-an-alien-world/ar-BB1c2sLV https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/scientists-thin... > This alien world could help us find Planet Nine in our own solar system https://www.popsci.com/story/science/alien-planet-nine/ https://www.popsci.com/story/science/alien-planet-nine/
IfOnlyYouKnew 6y ago
I'd be happy with "by mice".

This comment left me wondering: What's the astronomy equivalent of “in mice”?

checkyoursudo 6y ago

Gotta be something like "(but it's probably not aliens)", right?

rob74 6y ago
Could you use "non-biogenic" (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/biogenic https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/biogenic) for a thing like radio emissions?
- DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
  That still suggests a _machine race_ could have sent it.
  - cercatrova 6y ago
    We could define intelligent life as being any of a sapient species, regardless of physical composition. That's helps do away with only carbon-based lifeforms.
    - MichaelZuo 6y ago
      What would be the definition of sapience for a machine civilization?
      - cercatrova 6y ago
        Same as for humans. Or a hive mind, or some other type.
        MichaelZuo 6y ago
        Which is? Common dictionaries, such as Oxford, state: Sapient 1. Wise, or attempting to appear wise. 2. Relating to the human species. Where 1. wise is defined: Having or showing experience, knowledge, and good judgement. Hard to see how that would apply to a hypothetical hive or machine drone civilization with only a single ‘wise’ controller. 2. Clearly not applicable.
        a_t48 6y ago
        Sentience might be a better word.
        cercatrova 6y ago
        Why wouldn't 1 work? Basically it's a species that is at least as intelligent as us and can carry out civilization, including scientific and technological progress. It may or may not be sentient as well, see Blindsight for example.
- kjs3 6y ago
  Perhaps "naturally occurring" would be more clear to the layman. Until proven otherwise.

not_kurt_godel 6y ago

"alien world" > Scientists think they've detected radio emissions from an alien world https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/scientists-think-theyve-detected-radio-emissions-from-an-alien-world/ar-BB1c2sLV https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/scientists-thin... > This alien world could help us find Planet Nine in our own solar system https://www.popsci.com/story/science/alien-planet-nine/ https://www.popsci.com/story/science/alien-planet-nine/

IfOnlyYouKnew 6y ago

I'd be happy with "by mice".