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They worked out that every personal licensee is an advocate, if not an outright evangelist for their product.

gjvc 6y ago
Upvote 100x; I completely agree. As a counter-example look at Sencha, who have long alienated developers using their ExtJS toolkit, and this has deepened since the takeover by Idera.
- rusticpenn 6y ago
  is the EXTjs tookit any good?. I am in a project where I am forced to use EXTJS classic ( coming from React).
  - gjvc 6y ago
    Probably want to stick to 4.2.1 GPL [1] (there are GPL versions on 5.x and 6.x but only minor point releases) I think it's great for enterprise form-fill-in applications. It's a complete widget set for doing in the browser what GUI apps from 20 years ago had in Java (for example) I have no interest whatsoever in writing web applications by using multiple components from multiple sources. I want to use a single toolkit. ExtJS satisfies my requirements. The tooling is awkward, but I've learned how to use it. examples "web desktop" https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/desktop/desktop.html https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/des... widget library (classic) https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/build/KitchenSink/ext-theme-classic/ https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/bui... Please shout (email in profile) if you need any help. Good luck! [1] http://cdn.sencha.com/ext/gpl/ext-4.2.1-gpl.zip http://cdn.sencha.com/ext/gpl/ext-4.2.1-gpl.zip
    - rusticpenn 6y ago
      My project is a frontend for a CRUD app which a huge database. I will definitely ask for help when I am at my wits end! Thank you !
  - bokchoi 6y ago
    My biggest gripe is that ExtJS doesn't html encode the replacements in the component templates. This is something that react got right from the start.
rufus_foreman 6y ago
Exactly, that's how I started using JetBrains products, I was working in a shop where everyone used Eclipse, and one developer kept telling everyone that if they tried Intellij for 30 days they wouldn't go back. I think there was only one developer that tried it and then went back to Eclipse.
- ci5er 6y ago
  As a counter, I have gotten 3 100+ person dev shops to adopt it.

gjvc 6y ago

Upvote 100x; I completely agree. As a counter-example look at Sencha, who have long alienated developers using their ExtJS toolkit, and this has deepened since the takeover by Idera.

rusticpenn 6y ago
is the EXTjs tookit any good?. I am in a project where I am forced to use EXTJS classic ( coming from React).
- gjvc 6y ago
  Probably want to stick to 4.2.1 GPL [1] (there are GPL versions on 5.x and 6.x but only minor point releases) I think it's great for enterprise form-fill-in applications. It's a complete widget set for doing in the browser what GUI apps from 20 years ago had in Java (for example) I have no interest whatsoever in writing web applications by using multiple components from multiple sources. I want to use a single toolkit. ExtJS satisfies my requirements. The tooling is awkward, but I've learned how to use it. examples "web desktop" https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/desktop/desktop.html https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/des... widget library (classic) https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/build/KitchenSink/ext-theme-classic/ https://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.2.1/extjs-build/examples/bui... Please shout (email in profile) if you need any help. Good luck! [1] http://cdn.sencha.com/ext/gpl/ext-4.2.1-gpl.zip http://cdn.sencha.com/ext/gpl/ext-4.2.1-gpl.zip
  - rusticpenn 6y ago
    My project is a frontend for a CRUD app which a huge database. I will definitely ask for help when I am at my wits end! Thank you !
- bokchoi 6y ago
  My biggest gripe is that ExtJS doesn't html encode the replacements in the component templates. This is something that react got right from the start.

rufus_foreman 6y ago

Exactly, that's how I started using JetBrains products, I was working in a shop where everyone used Eclipse, and one developer kept telling everyone that if they tried Intellij for 30 days they wouldn't go back. I think there was only one developer that tried it and then went back to Eclipse.

ci5er 6y ago
As a counter, I have gotten 3 100+ person dev shops to adopt it.