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The removing of 32bit support in Catalina was definitely a bad thing for many, who are using x86-Macs, but for someone interesting in an ARM-based Mac, shouldn'

by _ph_ 6y ago

The removing of 32bit support in Catalina was definitely a bad thing for many, who are using x86-Macs, but for someone interesting in an ARM-based Mac, shouldn't play a role.

corty 6y ago
> shouldn't play a role. Until it does. Some future MacOS may need support of some new architecture feature, then it'll be "better buy an Arm13 mac if you want to run MacOS 2023!". Apple doesn't have a very good track record about supporting their own old hardware in new MacOS releases. Several iMacs and MacMinis come to mind. Their past behaviour sets a benchmark for their future behaviour, and since there are no reliable assurances about their support roadmap, I'd think carefully...
- mbreese 6y ago
  What? Big Sur supports hardware that is at least 7 years old. Catalina goes back to 2012 (and still gets security updates). For an OS vendor that has yearly updates, they do a pretty good job of supporting older hardware. https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility
  - monocasa 6y ago
    The PowerPC->Intel transition led to an OSX release that was Intel only just three years after the first Intel hardware was released. Apple's known for cutting compatibility when they have some goal that's served by it, or it's viewed as an albatross by their product side.
    - mbreese 6y ago
      True. It looks like the last PPC Macs were released in 2005 and were available through 2006 [1]. The last OS that supported them was Leopard, which got Security updates though 2009 [2]. [1] https://everymac.com/systems/by_timeline/ultimate-mac-timeline.html https://everymac.com/systems/by_timeline/ultimate-mac-timeli... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Leopard#Release_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Leopard#Release_histo...
  - Xylakant 6y ago
    Even better: Based on apples history High Sierra probably EOLs January 2021 and supports hardware all the way back to 2010. So that's a decade of hardware support which is pretty good.

by _ph_ 6y ago

The removing of 32bit support in Catalina was definitely a bad thing for many, who are using x86-Macs, but for someone interesting in an ARM-based Mac, shouldn't play a role.

corty 6y ago

> shouldn't play a role. Until it does. Some future MacOS may need support of some new architecture feature, then it'll be "better buy an Arm13 mac if you want to run MacOS 2023!". Apple doesn't have a very good track record about supporting their own old hardware in new MacOS releases. Several iMacs and MacMinis come to mind. Their past behaviour sets a benchmark for their future behaviour, and since there are no reliable assurances about their support roadmap, I'd think carefully...

mbreese 6y ago
What? Big Sur supports hardware that is at least 7 years old. Catalina goes back to 2012 (and still gets security updates). For an OS vendor that has yearly updates, they do a pretty good job of supporting older hardware. https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility https://eshop.macsales.com/guides/Mac_OS_X_Compatibility
- monocasa 6y ago
  The PowerPC->Intel transition led to an OSX release that was Intel only just three years after the first Intel hardware was released. Apple's known for cutting compatibility when they have some goal that's served by it, or it's viewed as an albatross by their product side.
  - mbreese 6y ago
    True. It looks like the last PPC Macs were released in 2005 and were available through 2006 [1]. The last OS that supported them was Leopard, which got Security updates though 2009 [2]. [1] https://everymac.com/systems/by_timeline/ultimate-mac-timeline.html https://everymac.com/systems/by_timeline/ultimate-mac-timeli... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Leopard#Release_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Leopard#Release_histo...
- Xylakant 6y ago
  Even better: Based on apples history High Sierra probably EOLs January 2021 and supports hardware all the way back to 2010. So that's a decade of hardware support which is pretty good.