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Back in the days there was the P3P protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P) supported by IE and Edge, but it didn't work o

Back in the days there was the P3P protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P) supported by IE and Edge, but it didn't work out and was abandoned. There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. You can also reject all cookies in any web browser, but then majority of web pages will not work properly.

Yaggo 6y ago
> There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. The naivety of this approach almost makes me laugh. I mean, it's good intention, but really we cannot just trust the "bad" party. Active client-side measures are needed (e.g. as Safari does).
- niutech 6y ago
  You can install uBlock Origin and disable all third-party cookies in almost every web browser.
yason 6y ago
I accept but don't save any cookies except certain whitelisted ones. So I get a lot of cookie policy banners and I always click the full 'accept all' option because at best it'll just eat into their database storage and I'll arrive with no stored cookies the next time I visit the site. The browser allows me to accept all cookies or non-third-party cookies automatically but I still get these stupid cookie policy banners that cover half the screen at the worst. I'd really like a standardized way to accept all cookie policies with no questions asked. (And, for the matter, something that automatically says 'no' each and every time a site decides that the best first thing to do is to ask me to give some feedback of the site before I've even used the said site.)
- niutech 6y ago
  Just install this extension: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/
  - Yaggo 6y ago
    Sure, there exists an extension for pretty much everything, but it's not an ideal situation that you need to install an extension for stuff like this. Also, having too many extensions slows down the browser (because they need to parse/manipulate DOM) and extensions themselves are also a security/privacy risk and finding the good ones for every browser can be tedious. Besides, my mom has no idea what's "a browser extension".
    - niutech 6y ago
      So tell her what it is :) Most people just need one extension: uBlock Origin (or built-in Opera/Brave adblock) with a filter list from prebake.eu. No more ads and cookie banners. Easy as that.
      - pstch 6y ago
        I'm using this setup, and I still get cookie/ToS banners all the time, especially using Google (I think I'm accepting their new terms of service 4/5 times each day).
        niutech 6y ago
        Just add these filters to uBlock Origin: www.google.com###lb www.google.com##html:style(overflow-y: visible !important;)
- gnud 6y ago
  Quite a lot of "cookie banners" are really banners to allow third parties to track you. Under GDPR, this requires a clear, unambiguous consent, freely given. How can you understand what you consent to if you blanket-accept everything? And thus the consent is invalid. And they need a new banner.
  - cedilla 6y ago
    Some News sites literally ask for consent to over a thousand purposes in dozens of categories. Ist's really wild top assume that that's consent, informered or otherwise.
    - tripzilch 6y ago
      Oh but that behaviour is actually pretty clearly not compliant with the EU cookie law. It just hasn't been enforced (which isn't great). They're not allowed to make it harder to withdraw consent than to give it. I've also found, on the few times I humoured their "consent" system, found that each of these "tracking providers" (?) needed to make a request to a different domain to withdraw consent, and some of them simply wouldn't load.
- Yaggo 6y ago
  > I accept but don't save any cookies except certain whitelisted ones. That's basically what happens in private mode (incognito), I guess. Would be nice if browsers used private mode by default, and you could "whitelist" certain sites you trust / want to remember your login.
  - niutech 6y ago
    This is not what most people would like. But you can tell your browser not to save any cookies except some whitelisted sites, e.g. in Chrome: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95647?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95647?co=GENIE.Plat...
will4274 6y ago
To be clear, P3P didn't work because Mozilla and Google and poured gasoline on it, and then Facebook lit a match. Had competing browsers not been desperate to brand it as some sort of weird proprietary Micro$oft thing, we might have a better version of it today (as happened to most features of that era).

Yaggo 6y ago

> There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. The naivety of this approach almost makes me laugh. I mean, it's good intention, but really we cannot just trust the "bad" party. Active client-side measures are needed (e.g. as Safari does).

niutech 6y ago
You can install uBlock Origin and disable all third-party cookies in almost every web browser.

yason 6y ago

I accept but don't save any cookies except certain whitelisted ones. So I get a lot of cookie policy banners and I always click the full 'accept all' option because at best it'll just eat into their database storage and I'll arrive with no stored cookies the next time I visit the site. The browser allows me to accept all cookies or non-third-party cookies automatically but I still get these stupid cookie policy banners that cover half the screen at the worst. I'd really like a standardized way to accept all cookie policies with no questions asked. (And, for the matter, something that automatically says 'no' each and every time a site decides that the best first thing to do is to ask me to give some feedback of the site before I've even used the said site.)

niutech 6y ago
Just install this extension: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/
- Yaggo 6y ago
  Sure, there exists an extension for pretty much everything, but it's not an ideal situation that you need to install an extension for stuff like this. Also, having too many extensions slows down the browser (because they need to parse/manipulate DOM) and extensions themselves are also a security/privacy risk and finding the good ones for every browser can be tedious. Besides, my mom has no idea what's "a browser extension".
  - niutech 6y ago
    So tell her what it is :) Most people just need one extension: uBlock Origin (or built-in Opera/Brave adblock) with a filter list from prebake.eu. No more ads and cookie banners. Easy as that.
    - pstch 6y ago
      I'm using this setup, and I still get cookie/ToS banners all the time, especially using Google (I think I'm accepting their new terms of service 4/5 times each day).
      - niutech 6y ago
        Just add these filters to uBlock Origin: www.google.com###lb www.google.com##html:style(overflow-y: visible !important;)
gnud 6y ago
Quite a lot of "cookie banners" are really banners to allow third parties to track you. Under GDPR, this requires a clear, unambiguous consent, freely given. How can you understand what you consent to if you blanket-accept everything? And thus the consent is invalid. And they need a new banner.
- cedilla 6y ago
  Some News sites literally ask for consent to over a thousand purposes in dozens of categories. Ist's really wild top assume that that's consent, informered or otherwise.
  - tripzilch 6y ago
    Oh but that behaviour is actually pretty clearly not compliant with the EU cookie law. It just hasn't been enforced (which isn't great). They're not allowed to make it harder to withdraw consent than to give it. I've also found, on the few times I humoured their "consent" system, found that each of these "tracking providers" (?) needed to make a request to a different domain to withdraw consent, and some of them simply wouldn't load.
Yaggo 6y ago
> I accept but don't save any cookies except certain whitelisted ones. That's basically what happens in private mode (incognito), I guess. Would be nice if browsers used private mode by default, and you could "whitelist" certain sites you trust / want to remember your login.
- niutech 6y ago
  This is not what most people would like. But you can tell your browser not to save any cookies except some whitelisted sites, e.g. in Chrome: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95647?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95647?co=GENIE.Plat...

will4274 6y ago

To be clear, P3P didn't work because Mozilla and Google and poured gasoline on it, and then Facebook lit a match. Had competing browsers not been desperate to brand it as some sort of weird proprietary Micro$oft thing, we might have a better version of it today (as happened to most features of that era).