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Reading the Twitter thread I wonder if people just have unrealistic expectations. Self driving cars are a billion dollar industry, and yet you expect a game de

by yarcob 6y ago

Reading the Twitter thread I wonder if people just have unrealistic expectations. Self driving cars are a billion dollar industry, and yet you expect a game dev studio to come up with a realistic AI for drivers? It's a game. People know that it's not real. Sure, it's fun to discover the tricks that the devs had to pull off to make it work. But man, don't blame a game dev studio that they haven't come up with an algorithm for self driving cars.

slg 6y ago
I don't mean to be a jerk, but I don't think you know what you are talking about here. Driver AI in a video game isn't nearly as complex as self driving cars in the real world. Plenty of games have been able to create a more realistic driver AI. For example take a look at this video[1], specifically the part in which the user shoots at AI driven cars. The AI in GTA 5 responds in a much more realistic fashion. This has a huge impact on immersion and creating a lifelike world. GTA 5 came out 7 years ago. There is no technical reason for Cyberpunk's AI being this bad. CDPR simply didn't want to invest the time in making it better. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9VMTk13wfo&t=390 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9VMTk13wfo&t=390
- ghosty141 6y ago
  This video really hurts to watch. It looks so dead even compared to The Witcher 3
- yarcob 6y ago
  You're right, I had no idea how realistic drivers behave in newer games. Would be interesting to see what tricks GTA pulls off to hide the limits of their AI. Obviously they do a better job. (Sidenote: When the guy started beating up pedestrians I just couldn't continue watching that video. Maybe I'm getting old.)
La1n 6y ago
Self diving cars are not comparable to a driver AI. The AI exists within a world where it can have full knowledge of everything, and will have significantly less edge cases to worry about. Many racing and open world games do a great job at this, so it's not that it can't be done. edit: Also hitting a pedestrian isn't a huge deal in a videogame.
- xchaotic 6y ago
  FWIW, I got hit by cars a lot in my cyberpunk playthrough. Fits the dystopian narrative I guess, but even in a dystopia people worry about scratching their car or an insurance nightmare so not too realistic experience. Other than the game is very enjoyable on a PC, with some really enjoyable NPC action, interesting side quests and a great main story line. Also a great value compared to buying a movie or going to the cinema for a similar price - so far sunk 50h into the game.

by yarcob 6y ago

slg 6y ago

I don't mean to be a jerk, but I don't think you know what you are talking about here. Driver AI in a video game isn't nearly as complex as self driving cars in the real world. Plenty of games have been able to create a more realistic driver AI. For example take a look at this video[1], specifically the part in which the user shoots at AI driven cars. The AI in GTA 5 responds in a much more realistic fashion. This has a huge impact on immersion and creating a lifelike world. GTA 5 came out 7 years ago. There is no technical reason for Cyberpunk's AI being this bad. CDPR simply didn't want to invest the time in making it better. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9VMTk13wfo&t=390 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9VMTk13wfo&t=390

ghosty141 6y ago
This video really hurts to watch. It looks so dead even compared to The Witcher 3
yarcob 6y ago
You're right, I had no idea how realistic drivers behave in newer games. Would be interesting to see what tricks GTA pulls off to hide the limits of their AI. Obviously they do a better job. (Sidenote: When the guy started beating up pedestrians I just couldn't continue watching that video. Maybe I'm getting old.)

La1n 6y ago

Self diving cars are not comparable to a driver AI. The AI exists within a world where it can have full knowledge of everything, and will have significantly less edge cases to worry about. Many racing and open world games do a great job at this, so it's not that it can't be done. edit: Also hitting a pedestrian isn't a huge deal in a videogame.

xchaotic 6y ago
FWIW, I got hit by cars a lot in my cyberpunk playthrough. Fits the dystopian narrative I guess, but even in a dystopia people worry about scratching their car or an insurance nightmare so not too realistic experience. Other than the game is very enjoyable on a PC, with some really enjoyable NPC action, interesting side quests and a great main story line. Also a great value compared to buying a movie or going to the cinema for a similar price - so far sunk 50h into the game.