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I wish browsers had built-in mechanism for showing the cookie banners. After all, cookies are just an HTTP header sent from server and it's up to the user-agent

by Yaggo 6y ago

I wish browsers had built-in mechanism for showing the cookie banners. After all, cookies are just an HTTP header sent from server and it's up to the user-agent to handle it. There could be a standard header such as cookie-privacy-policy which would point to url containing the policy in standadrd format (html?) and the browser could show it in standard way (by user's settings). Personally I would be happy with just a little "privacy policy" icon in url bar, similar to https lock icon and reader view icon (in Safari).

niutech 6y ago
Back in the days there was the P3P protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P) supported by IE and Edge, but it didn't work out and was abandoned. There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. You can also reject all cookies in any web browser, but then majority of web pages will not work properly.
- Yaggo 6y ago
  > There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. The naivety of this approach almost makes me laugh. I mean, it's good intention, but really we cannot just trust the "bad" party. Active client-side measures are needed (e.g. as Safari does).
  - niutech 6y ago
    You can install uBlock Origin and disable all third-party cookies in almost every web browser.
- yason 6y ago
  I accept but don't save any cookies except certain whitelisted ones. So I get a lot of cookie policy banners and I always click the full 'accept all' option because at best it'll just eat into their database storage and I'll arrive with no stored cookies the next time I visit the site. The browser allows me to accept all cookies or non-third-party cookies automatically but I still get these stupid cookie policy banners that cover half the screen at the worst. I'd really like a standardized way to accept all cookie policies with no questions asked. (And, for the matter, something that automatically says 'no' each and every time a site decides that the best first thing to do is to ask me to give some feedback of the site before I've even used the said site.)
  - niutech 6y ago
    Just install this extension: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/
    - Yaggo 6y ago
      Sure, there exists an extension for pretty much everything, but it's not an ideal situation that you need to install an extension for stuff like this. Also, having too many extensions slows down the browser (because they need to parse/manipulate DOM) and extensions themselves are also a security/privacy risk and finding the good ones for every browser can be tedious. Besides, my mom has no idea what's "a browser extension".
      - niutech 6y ago
        So tell her what it is :) Most people just need one extension: uBlock Origin (or built-in Opera/Brave adblock) with a filter list from prebake.eu. No more ads and cookie banners. Easy as that.
        pstch 6y ago
        I'm using this setup, and I still get cookie/ToS banners all the time, especially using Google (I think I'm accepting their new terms of service 4/5 times each day).
        niutech 6y ago
        Just add these filters to uBlock Origin: www.google.com###lb www.google.com##html:style(overflow-y: visible !important;)
  - gnud 6y ago
    Quite a lot of "cookie banners" are really banners to allow third parties to track you. Under GDPR, this requires a clear, unambiguous consent, freely given. How can you understand what you consent to if you blanket-accept everything? And thus the consent is invalid. And they need a new banner.
- will4274 6y ago
  To be clear, P3P didn't work because Mozilla and Google and poured gasoline on it, and then Facebook lit a match. Had competing browsers not been desperate to brand it as some sort of weird proprietary Micro$oft thing, we might have a better version of it today (as happened to most features of that era).

by Yaggo 6y ago

niutech 6y ago

Back in the days there was the P3P protocol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P) supported by IE and Edge, but it didn't work out and was abandoned. There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. You can also reject all cookies in any web browser, but then majority of web pages will not work properly.

Yaggo 6y ago
> There is also `Do Not Track` header but it is not respected by most of websites. The naivety of this approach almost makes me laugh. I mean, it's good intention, but really we cannot just trust the "bad" party. Active client-side measures are needed (e.g. as Safari does).
- niutech 6y ago
  You can install uBlock Origin and disable all third-party cookies in almost every web browser.
yason 6y ago
I accept but don't save any cookies except certain whitelisted ones. So I get a lot of cookie policy banners and I always click the full 'accept all' option because at best it'll just eat into their database storage and I'll arrive with no stored cookies the next time I visit the site. The browser allows me to accept all cookies or non-third-party cookies automatically but I still get these stupid cookie policy banners that cover half the screen at the worst. I'd really like a standardized way to accept all cookie policies with no questions asked. (And, for the matter, something that automatically says 'no' each and every time a site decides that the best first thing to do is to ask me to give some feedback of the site before I've even used the said site.)
- niutech 6y ago
  Just install this extension: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/ https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/
  - Yaggo 6y ago
    Sure, there exists an extension for pretty much everything, but it's not an ideal situation that you need to install an extension for stuff like this. Also, having too many extensions slows down the browser (because they need to parse/manipulate DOM) and extensions themselves are also a security/privacy risk and finding the good ones for every browser can be tedious. Besides, my mom has no idea what's "a browser extension".
    - niutech 6y ago
      So tell her what it is :) Most people just need one extension: uBlock Origin (or built-in Opera/Brave adblock) with a filter list from prebake.eu. No more ads and cookie banners. Easy as that.
      - pstch 6y ago
        I'm using this setup, and I still get cookie/ToS banners all the time, especially using Google (I think I'm accepting their new terms of service 4/5 times each day).
        niutech 6y ago
        Just add these filters to uBlock Origin: www.google.com###lb www.google.com##html:style(overflow-y: visible !important;)
- gnud 6y ago
  Quite a lot of "cookie banners" are really banners to allow third parties to track you. Under GDPR, this requires a clear, unambiguous consent, freely given. How can you understand what you consent to if you blanket-accept everything? And thus the consent is invalid. And they need a new banner.
will4274 6y ago
To be clear, P3P didn't work because Mozilla and Google and poured gasoline on it, and then Facebook lit a match. Had competing browsers not been desperate to brand it as some sort of weird proprietary Micro$oft thing, we might have a better version of it today (as happened to most features of that era).