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Both Google and Facebook have rigged online advertising. Apple is doing GOOD!

TechBro8615 6y ago
Is this supposed to be a parody of a Trump tweet? It’s pretty good!
HenryBemis 6y ago
> Apple is doing GOOD! only on the ad/privacy/security section. On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that. On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad On the "look we are installing NFC on our phones, a true innovation" when other phone makers have been for years, but still don't let you use the device freely" not so good either. On the "you can only buy (iOS) apps from us and nobody else, yeah!" I don't find that so good either. So.. .there is a saying, there are two ways to have the tallest tower. Build the tallest tower, OR make sure the competition doesn't build theirs. There is a small(?) chance to try to cripple a lot of the competition's (ad) profits by introducing these controls. I am pro-privacy and exist outside the FB and Google ecosystems. Apple is doing that good, but they ain't saints. They still got plenty way to go to sainthood. They need to fix/correct plenty of things, and some are not fixable.
- auggierose 6y ago
  If you can get conned into a $1000 phone, that is really entirely your problem, not Apples. Cables? Really? I am sure you are not ordering on Amazon, because that is an environmental mess. NFC. Complaining about a feature you got and it seems, wanted? Jesus. Stop whining.
- nmfisher 6y ago
  The saving grace is that it's (relatively) easy to avoid Apple's ecosystem if you don't like the way they do business (like me). Google/Facebook is much more difficult.
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  - ghaff 6y ago
    Facebook seems relatively easy to me as well, although I have few friends/family who are regular Facebook users at this point. Maybe if I had extended family or circle of friends who all used Facebook daily, I'd feel differently. Google I agree is harder and not using Google (including Android) makes it pretty hard not to use other tech giants like Apple and Microsoft. You can mostly avoid using one or two of the dominant firms. It's pretty hard to avoid using all of them.
    - naravara 6y ago
      > Facebook seems relatively easy to me as well, although I have few friends/family who are regular Facebook users at this point. Maybe if I had extended family or circle of friends who all used Facebook daily, I'd feel differently. Instagram and WhatsApp are how Facebook really gets its hooks in these days. They manage to avoid the stink of their parent company's brand. That said, Instagram is falling out of favor with the yutes. They're moving into TikTok now, which is just as invasive with the added bonus of Chinese state censorship added on.
- coldtea 6y ago
  >On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that. They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did. The rest is BS and media circus. I had iPhones since 2008 and never felt compelled to "buy a new" every year, just because there was tiny percentage perf drop. For one, the drop in battery (and thus perf tradeoff) happens after 3 or more years of use, not after the first year. Apple is the only company that supports old phone models with new releases for as long, and the company with the best resale value. So, don't buy into the media/ambulance chasers hoopla... >On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad Most people already have 2-4 cables at home. Why include new ones if they don't need them? Just to churn out more plastic? Or is it a problem that in your $600 to $1200 purchase also needs to factor in a $20 cable if you don't already have one? Environmentally speaking I'd force companies to mimick this: (a) use standard chargers and cables, (b) do not provide them in the box. People that already have several don't need them, people who don't can buy a standalone one (even third party for cheaper). The Lighting cable is not a standard (i'd force Apple to move to USB-C), but it's ubiquitous enough (it's not some obscure, per-device cable, like we had in days of yore). >On the "you can only buy (iOS) apps from us and nobody else, yeah!" I don't find that so good either. I do. I wouldn't want to be forced to use the Google store for certain apps, the Facebook store for other apps, random third party stores with shady malware apps imposed upon the less savvy users, and so on... I buy iPhones because of the integration. Go get a Librem phone for the "ultimate" open experience...
  - danieldk 6y ago
    They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did. And even then, I have various family members who are still on a 6S, because they feel it's fast enough. A 5 year old phone that still gets the latest OS updates and feels pretty smooth. You can't get the same from a competitor that targets non-technical users. (I am sure that there is some open source Android 11 build that runs on the Nexus 5X.)
  - michaelt 6y ago
- daemoon 6y ago
  > On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that. Three things: 1. It takes more than a year, maybe 3-4, to degrade the battery enough for it to affect performance in any way. 2. There are many iPhone models at different price points, the cheapest one being $399. 3. If they didn't cap the performance they would be making headlines for "Older iPhones suddenly power off for no reason" instead. Their only mistake was to not communicate good enough to the users that performance would return back to normal after a battery replacement.
  - lotsofpulp 6y ago
    You can easily notice the difference in a battery after it has gone through 500 charge cycles, which can easily happen in 2 years. Even my mom has it happen from using Facetime all day.
    - daemoon 6y ago
      > You can easily notice the difference in a battery after it has gone through 500 charge cycles... Of course, that's how batteries work. However, 500 charge cycles will likely not affect CPU performance but rather the battery life (which is why I said "enough for it to affect performance"). I had 1352 charge cycles and 75% battery health before replacing it and even though the battery life was shortened, I did not experience any sudden shut downs.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  > On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad Considering the looong time that it took (takes!) to get out USB-C, and the early "fried laptop" issues, one can't exactly blame them ?

Is this supposed to be a parody of a Trump tweet? It’s pretty good!

> Apple is doing GOOD! only on the ad/privacy/security section. On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that. On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad On the "look we are installing NFC on our phones, a true innovation" when other phone makers have been for years, but still don't let you use the device freely" not so good either. On the "you can only buy (iOS) apps from us and nobody else, yeah!" I don't find that so good either. So.. .there is a saying, there are two ways to have the tallest tower. Build the tallest tower, OR make sure the competition doesn't build theirs. There is a small(?) chance to try to cripple a lot of the competition's (ad) profits by introducing these controls. I am pro-privacy and exist outside the FB and Google ecosystems. Apple is doing that good, but they ain't saints. They still got plenty way to go to sainthood. They need to fix/correct plenty of things, and some are not fixable.

auggierose 6y ago
If you can get conned into a $1000 phone, that is really entirely your problem, not Apples. Cables? Really? I am sure you are not ordering on Amazon, because that is an environmental mess. NFC. Complaining about a feature you got and it seems, wanted? Jesus. Stop whining.
nmfisher 6y ago
The saving grace is that it's (relatively) easy to avoid Apple's ecosystem if you don't like the way they do business (like me). Google/Facebook is much more difficult.
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- ghaff 6y ago
  Facebook seems relatively easy to me as well, although I have few friends/family who are regular Facebook users at this point. Maybe if I had extended family or circle of friends who all used Facebook daily, I'd feel differently. Google I agree is harder and not using Google (including Android) makes it pretty hard not to use other tech giants like Apple and Microsoft. You can mostly avoid using one or two of the dominant firms. It's pretty hard to avoid using all of them.
  - naravara 6y ago
    > Facebook seems relatively easy to me as well, although I have few friends/family who are regular Facebook users at this point. Maybe if I had extended family or circle of friends who all used Facebook daily, I'd feel differently. Instagram and WhatsApp are how Facebook really gets its hooks in these days. They manage to avoid the stink of their parent company's brand. That said, Instagram is falling out of favor with the yutes. They're moving into TikTok now, which is just as invasive with the added bonus of Chinese state censorship added on.
coldtea 6y ago
>On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that. They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did. The rest is BS and media circus. I had iPhones since 2008 and never felt compelled to "buy a new" every year, just because there was tiny percentage perf drop. For one, the drop in battery (and thus perf tradeoff) happens after 3 or more years of use, not after the first year. Apple is the only company that supports old phone models with new releases for as long, and the company with the best resale value. So, don't buy into the media/ambulance chasers hoopla... >On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad Most people already have 2-4 cables at home. Why include new ones if they don't need them? Just to churn out more plastic? Or is it a problem that in your $600 to $1200 purchase also needs to factor in a $20 cable if you don't already have one? Environmentally speaking I'd force companies to mimick this: (a) use standard chargers and cables, (b) do not provide them in the box. People that already have several don't need them, people who don't can buy a standalone one (even third party for cheaper). The Lighting cable is not a standard (i'd force Apple to move to USB-C), but it's ubiquitous enough (it's not some obscure, per-device cable, like we had in days of yore). >On the "you can only buy (iOS) apps from us and nobody else, yeah!" I don't find that so good either. I do. I wouldn't want to be forced to use the Google store for certain apps, the Facebook store for other apps, random third party stores with shady malware apps imposed upon the less savvy users, and so on... I buy iPhones because of the integration. Go get a Librem phone for the "ultimate" open experience...
- danieldk 6y ago
  They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did. And even then, I have various family members who are still on a 6S, because they feel it's fast enough. A 5 year old phone that still gets the latest OS updates and feels pretty smooth. You can't get the same from a competitor that targets non-technical users. (I am sure that there is some open source Android 11 build that runs on the Nexus 5X.)
- michaelt 6y ago
daemoon 6y ago
> On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that. Three things: 1. It takes more than a year, maybe 3-4, to degrade the battery enough for it to affect performance in any way. 2. There are many iPhone models at different price points, the cheapest one being $399. 3. If they didn't cap the performance they would be making headlines for "Older iPhones suddenly power off for no reason" instead. Their only mistake was to not communicate good enough to the users that performance would return back to normal after a battery replacement.
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  You can easily notice the difference in a battery after it has gone through 500 charge cycles, which can easily happen in 2 years. Even my mom has it happen from using Facetime all day.
  - daemoon 6y ago
    > You can easily notice the difference in a battery after it has gone through 500 charge cycles... Of course, that's how batteries work. However, 500 charge cycles will likely not affect CPU performance but rather the battery life (which is why I said "enough for it to affect performance"). I had 1352 charge cycles and 75% battery health before replacing it and even though the battery life was shortened, I did not experience any sudden shut downs.
BlueTemplar 6y ago
> On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad Considering the looong time that it took (takes!) to get out USB-C, and the early "fried laptop" issues, one can't exactly blame them ?