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by bArray 6y ago

> We've detected that JavaScript is disabled in this > browser. Please enable JavaScript or switch to a supported > browser to continue using twitter.com. You can see a list > of supported browsers in our Help Center. So long then, Twitter. Consider for a minute the number of services/programs that just got screwed, the number of people on slow internet connections they just cut off, the number of people on low-end mobile devices that just lost access to local community discussions - the list goes on. Was it really so much to ask for a basic HTML interface to display text and images? In terms of resources, surely this is quite easy to support? I've been using mbasic.facebook.com without JS for years, for example. Sure, some features are screwed, but for the most part it works.

pmoriarty 6y ago
I've been using nitter.net to read tweets without javascript. I just append everything after the twitter.com domain name to https://nitter.net https://nitter.net to read the tweet in question. For example, the tweet this HN post links to could be read without javascript here: https://nitter.net/zarfeblong/status/1339742840142872577 https://nitter.net/zarfeblong/status/1339742840142872577
- politelemon 6y ago
  I'm using the privacy redirect extension which does this for all twitter links. It has equivalents for Instagram, maps and reddit too
  - fretn 6y ago
    Does somebody know if something exists for safari on macos ? Or is this with the new web extension framework still not possible ?
- CyberRabbi 6y ago
  I also use nitter for the that reason. I was under the impression that nitter screen scrapes so it’s interesting that it’s still working unchanged.
- segfaultbuserr 6y ago
  +1 for nitter.net. In recent years, Twitter started to block public proxies and Tor aggressively, if an IP address is rate-limited, all accesses are denied. Worse, because of JavaScript, it only denies access after the script has given up after spending 60 seconds. And even when I'm not blocked, the script is still slow, and if you accidentally refreshed the page while in the middle of an endless scrolling, you'll have to try again. Nitter.net solves all the problems at once. I don't use Twitter but I do maintain a list of people in tech, which I check from time to time.
  - ryukafalz 6y ago
    You don't even have to be using Tor to get blocked like this; I get rate limited fairly regularly just following Twitter links on my phone while on mobile data. I suspect it's because my carrier is doing CGNAT and I share an IP with several other users. Makes it annoying when someone links to Twitter as usually I'll have to sit there refreshing a few times before I can actually see it.
    - ollifi 6y ago
      I have no proof but I always assumed they do this to push phone users towards downloading the app.
      - etc-hosts 6y ago
        I run into issues like this running the app on my mobile.
- DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
  nitter is really the way I want to consume tweets (I'm not even on twitter but have my bookmarks to existing topics e.g. twitter lists and users that I tune into still - users that I used to follow when there - I used to follow hundreds but those that keep me coming back aren't more than 5). twitter without an account is twitter without the noise or risk of getting sucked into "contributing" (e.g. riling myself up lol) Sadly, when you submit links from nitter to HN they get automatically demoted (they won't even have a discuss link and will never see the frontpage). I don't know the reasoning but I guess the argument could be that - it violates original content rule (that official sources must be used). - some engineering just went into HN to show the user-name part of twitter posts in submitted links. (I took that as a reasoning why HN prefers twitter links rather than nitter - suppose that could easily be expanded though). - potential legal reasons (? I can't think of any but maybe HN respects the claim of twitter that the data belongs to them etc ...) just speculation but fact is there is no nitter support on HN.
- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  By Jove, is this interface snappier and more convenient.
- dastx 6y ago
  TIL! This is great. Thanks for posting.
- solstice 6y ago
  There are a bunch of different instances running the nitter software too, so please consider choosing another one to avoid hugging nitter.net too much. Here's the list: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances
- secondcoming 6y ago
  That's not fair. Someone put a lot of time and effort into that spinning wheel animation. By removing the need for JS the tweet now loads too quickly for it to be seen!
- 0-_-0 6y ago
  You can use this [0] browser plugin to automatically redirect to Nitter. You can also choose which instance to redirect to, or to choose an instance randomly every time (for load balancing). Also supports: YouTube -> Invidio.us Instagram -> Bibliogram Google Maps -> OpenStreetMap reddit.com -> old.reddit.com or i.reddit.com [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/privacy-redirect/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/privacy-redir...
  - est31 6y ago
    For reddit, there's also teddit: https://teddit.net/ https://teddit.net/
  - justaj 6y ago
    AFAIK the extension HTTPS Everywhere can do this too, but its UI for doing this is kind of haphazard.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    > Invidio.us This domain is dead, I currently am using invidious.xyz
    - 0-_-0 6y ago
      The plugin lets you choose between 12 alternatives, or choose randomly every time.
  - nicbou 6y ago
    Open Street Map is not a replacement for Google Maps. Not even close. It's a different product with overlapping features. As a detailed map, it's vastly superior. As a way to find locations and information about them, it's not nearly as good.
- krebs_liebhaber 6y ago
  My favorite part of nitter.net is the RSS feeds. Stick them in your reader of choice, refresh them with an hourly cron job, and you can keep up with all your favorite twatterers with no need for an account.
- JeremyNT 6y ago
  I love Nitter, but I can't help but feel like it's on borrowed time. Eventually Twitter is going to decide it's a problem. The day Nitter is killed is likely the day I stop using Twitter. Yes, I know you can host your own, but if Twitter decides to actively fight against it the best case scenario is an annoying cat and mouse game that makes the service unreliable.
RyanGoosling 6y ago
Can you use chromium cli? https://www.npmjs.com/package/puppeteer https://www.npmjs.com/package/puppeteer
- GoblinSlayer 6y ago
  I remember there was a tui python client for a number of such sites like reddit and stuff.
- nothasan 6y ago
  I don’t think this would really count as CLI, you still load up a full browser.
jakub_g 6y ago
BTW messenger over mbasic.facebook.com stopped working for me last week and throws errors. Am I the only one? The only web way to use FB messages for me now is the bloated desktop web experience (which takes 10s+ to load)
- bArray 6y ago
  mbasic.facebook.com still works perfectly fine for me.
  - jakub_g 6y ago
    The website continues to work, but when you go to "Messages" tab, it shows an error.
    - bArray 6y ago
      Not for me? Seems to work as per normal in my case. I can't tell you exactly why that is though.
      - jakub_g 6y ago
        Are you based in EU or outside? Perhaps it's an EU-only bug/feature after latest changes to be compliant with EU privacy rules.
        bArray 6y ago
        I'm currently based outside the EU and US, perhaps it is as you say. I'm not entirely sure why the privacy rules would change so drastically on a HTML based page though...
- tonoto 6y ago
  You are not the only one. I've used other browsers on my android to use facebook over m.facebook.com, but about a week ago Facebook Messenger messages was disabled with an error message and also the alternative mbasic.facebook.com was crippled for me. So anyone messaging me have to wait until I'm at home. Their ordinary web experience since the latest(?) change of UI is horrible, notifications takes forever to render forcing a full page refresh to get back working.
numpad0 6y ago
> Was it really so much to ask for a basic HTML interface to display text and images? Yes; it allows automated mass aggregation of hard, accurate, and current information, which is not only non-ideal from profit perspective but also for maintaining community active and/or engaging
giancarlostoro 6y ago
Guess its time for me to uninstall the app. That is entirely detestable behavior in my eyes. If you want me to use your products dont cripple them.
chadlavi 6y ago
Twitter doesn't make any money off those people.

by bArray 6y ago

pmoriarty 6y ago

I've been using nitter.net to read tweets without javascript. I just append everything after the twitter.com domain name to https://nitter.net https://nitter.net to read the tweet in question. For example, the tweet this HN post links to could be read without javascript here: https://nitter.net/zarfeblong/status/1339742840142872577 https://nitter.net/zarfeblong/status/1339742840142872577

politelemon 6y ago
I'm using the privacy redirect extension which does this for all twitter links. It has equivalents for Instagram, maps and reddit too
- fretn 6y ago
  Does somebody know if something exists for safari on macos ? Or is this with the new web extension framework still not possible ?
CyberRabbi 6y ago
I also use nitter for the that reason. I was under the impression that nitter screen scrapes so it’s interesting that it’s still working unchanged.
segfaultbuserr 6y ago
+1 for nitter.net. In recent years, Twitter started to block public proxies and Tor aggressively, if an IP address is rate-limited, all accesses are denied. Worse, because of JavaScript, it only denies access after the script has given up after spending 60 seconds. And even when I'm not blocked, the script is still slow, and if you accidentally refreshed the page while in the middle of an endless scrolling, you'll have to try again. Nitter.net solves all the problems at once. I don't use Twitter but I do maintain a list of people in tech, which I check from time to time.
- ryukafalz 6y ago
  You don't even have to be using Tor to get blocked like this; I get rate limited fairly regularly just following Twitter links on my phone while on mobile data. I suspect it's because my carrier is doing CGNAT and I share an IP with several other users. Makes it annoying when someone links to Twitter as usually I'll have to sit there refreshing a few times before I can actually see it.
  - ollifi 6y ago
    I have no proof but I always assumed they do this to push phone users towards downloading the app.
    - etc-hosts 6y ago
      I run into issues like this running the app on my mobile.
DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
nitter is really the way I want to consume tweets (I'm not even on twitter but have my bookmarks to existing topics e.g. twitter lists and users that I tune into still - users that I used to follow when there - I used to follow hundreds but those that keep me coming back aren't more than 5). twitter without an account is twitter without the noise or risk of getting sucked into "contributing" (e.g. riling myself up lol) Sadly, when you submit links from nitter to HN they get automatically demoted (they won't even have a discuss link and will never see the frontpage). I don't know the reasoning but I guess the argument could be that - it violates original content rule (that official sources must be used). - some engineering just went into HN to show the user-name part of twitter posts in submitted links. (I took that as a reasoning why HN prefers twitter links rather than nitter - suppose that could easily be expanded though). - potential legal reasons (? I can't think of any but maybe HN respects the claim of twitter that the data belongs to them etc ...) just speculation but fact is there is no nitter support on HN.
Blikkentrekker 6y ago
By Jove, is this interface snappier and more convenient.
dastx 6y ago
TIL! This is great. Thanks for posting.
solstice 6y ago
There are a bunch of different instances running the nitter software too, so please consider choosing another one to avoid hugging nitter.net too much. Here's the list: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances
secondcoming 6y ago
That's not fair. Someone put a lot of time and effort into that spinning wheel animation. By removing the need for JS the tweet now loads too quickly for it to be seen!
0-_-0 6y ago
You can use this [0] browser plugin to automatically redirect to Nitter. You can also choose which instance to redirect to, or to choose an instance randomly every time (for load balancing). Also supports: YouTube -> Invidio.us Instagram -> Bibliogram Google Maps -> OpenStreetMap reddit.com -> old.reddit.com or i.reddit.com [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/privacy-redirect/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/privacy-redir...
- est31 6y ago
  For reddit, there's also teddit: https://teddit.net/ https://teddit.net/
- justaj 6y ago
  AFAIK the extension HTTPS Everywhere can do this too, but its UI for doing this is kind of haphazard.
- Shared404 6y ago
  > Invidio.us This domain is dead, I currently am using invidious.xyz
  - 0-_-0 6y ago
    The plugin lets you choose between 12 alternatives, or choose randomly every time.
- nicbou 6y ago
  Open Street Map is not a replacement for Google Maps. Not even close. It's a different product with overlapping features. As a detailed map, it's vastly superior. As a way to find locations and information about them, it's not nearly as good.
krebs_liebhaber 6y ago
My favorite part of nitter.net is the RSS feeds. Stick them in your reader of choice, refresh them with an hourly cron job, and you can keep up with all your favorite twatterers with no need for an account.
JeremyNT 6y ago
I love Nitter, but I can't help but feel like it's on borrowed time. Eventually Twitter is going to decide it's a problem. The day Nitter is killed is likely the day I stop using Twitter. Yes, I know you can host your own, but if Twitter decides to actively fight against it the best case scenario is an annoying cat and mouse game that makes the service unreliable.

RyanGoosling 6y ago

Can you use chromium cli? https://www.npmjs.com/package/puppeteer https://www.npmjs.com/package/puppeteer

GoblinSlayer 6y ago
I remember there was a tui python client for a number of such sites like reddit and stuff.
nothasan 6y ago
I don’t think this would really count as CLI, you still load up a full browser.

jakub_g 6y ago

BTW messenger over mbasic.facebook.com stopped working for me last week and throws errors. Am I the only one? The only web way to use FB messages for me now is the bloated desktop web experience (which takes 10s+ to load)

bArray 6y ago
mbasic.facebook.com still works perfectly fine for me.
- jakub_g 6y ago
  The website continues to work, but when you go to "Messages" tab, it shows an error.
  - bArray 6y ago
    Not for me? Seems to work as per normal in my case. I can't tell you exactly why that is though.
    - jakub_g 6y ago
      Are you based in EU or outside? Perhaps it's an EU-only bug/feature after latest changes to be compliant with EU privacy rules.
      - bArray 6y ago
        I'm currently based outside the EU and US, perhaps it is as you say. I'm not entirely sure why the privacy rules would change so drastically on a HTML based page though...
tonoto 6y ago
You are not the only one. I've used other browsers on my android to use facebook over m.facebook.com, but about a week ago Facebook Messenger messages was disabled with an error message and also the alternative mbasic.facebook.com was crippled for me. So anyone messaging me have to wait until I'm at home. Their ordinary web experience since the latest(?) change of UI is horrible, notifications takes forever to render forcing a full page refresh to get back working.

numpad0 6y ago

> Was it really so much to ask for a basic HTML interface to display text and images? Yes; it allows automated mass aggregation of hard, accurate, and current information, which is not only non-ideal from profit perspective but also for maintaining community active and/or engaging

giancarlostoro 6y ago

Guess its time for me to uninstall the app. That is entirely detestable behavior in my eyes. If you want me to use your products dont cripple them.

chadlavi 6y ago

Twitter doesn't make any money off those people.