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I think China has been playing us for years, and doing so masterfully. There's no _good_ reason for the US, with our economy and standing, to be ripping itself

I think China has been playing us for years, and doing so masterfully. There's no _good_ reason for the US, with our economy and standing, to be ripping itself apart from within -- but, indeed we are. Not only is China growing in power and influence, as you point out, it has been investing in American media and other industries. They're famous for playing their strategic game over a long span of time (the long game). My pet theory is that Hollywood, Silicon Valley and the Left are thoroughly (and probably unwittingly) influenced by the infiltration, and are the medium for memes and messaging that divides us so much. It's as though we're about to re-fight the Civil War. China, the master that it is at cultural revolution and re-education, is playing a shrewd game. I think they're about to beat us cold by causing us to implode from within. If so, it's beyond sad -- but in terms of military strategy, a brilliantly played hand by President Xi and the CCP.

completelylegit 6y ago
Is it Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and the Left who are choosing to buy cheap Chinese goods? Are they forcing Walmart and Amazon to carry those goods? Are they responsible for the low wages Americans are making? Did they move manufacturing overseas? Otherwise a water tight theory ..
netsharc 6y ago
If you're going to throw generalities: Meanwhile the Right believes a guy named Q, that Biden stole the election (despite Giuliani Total Landscaping providing zero evidence), that there's a furniture store selling missing kids hiding in plain sight... Sure, not all of "The Right", but as I said, generalities. Your bias is showing, and you're totally blinded by propaganda as badly as you accuse some others.
Melting_Harps 6y ago
> Not only is China growing in power and influence, as you point out, it has been investing in American media and other industries. They're famous for playing their strategic game over a long span of time (the long game). The CCP has actual slave labour camps using the Uyghur people, they have illegally annexed Hong Kong and have been jailing and killing people in broad day light. Several CCP members and Carrie Lam have been barred from International finance that prevents them from funneling their funds to save havens (read: NOT CHINA) and no longer have bank accounts. And you think they're gaining influence over this? Australia is being chastised for asking the wrong questions over COVID, and the countless lies and coverups. Several countries, the US included, have put legislation to take in the outpouring of refugees who are not being jailed for trying to flee, and you think this is gaining them influence in the World? No, the issue here is that Supply Chains are so deeply embedded in China due to the hollowing out the US economy and its manufacturing so they are the mercy of the CCP's desertion of whether to maintain them, so heads of state who are beholden to their Corporate masters (who created this outsourcing craze) will instead simply try to divert your attention in order for you to just look away. The divisiveness to me serves no other purpose, and they don't need tick-tock to show them that, simply looking at how working class people are getting screwed over by local/state/federal government in the US is enough to enrage any sane person. We're just seeing the delayed aftermath of it. But be under no illusion: the World HATES the CCP and its horrible Crimes Against Humanity, but this breach is still nothing compared to something like Stuxnet. The only thing that one can see is the imperative for the World to de-couple from the China, which is easier said then done, and Xi and the CCP know its coming and have made it clear that they are going to start focusing on becoming more insular economy focusing on local demand.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> My pet theory is that Hollywood, Silicon Valley and the Left are thoroughly (and probably unwittingly) influenced by the infiltration, and are the medium for memes and messaging that divides us so much. It's as though we're about to re-fight the Civil War. Interesting you should attribute that to “Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and the Left” since the people spreading memes and propaganda literally advocating either a new Civil War and publicly advocating military overthrow of the lawfully elected government are on the Right (the former groups like the Boogaloo bois; the latter a number of prominent figures, including recently pardoned former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn.) > China, the master that it is at cultural revolution and re-education, is playing a shrewd game. Both the pro-Trump elites counselling extra-Constitutional violence and some of the more (superficially, at least) grassroots groups in the White nationalist/supremacist vein preaching race war have been well documented to have been engaged with and influenced by Russia; China less so.

completelylegit 6y ago

Is it Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and the Left who are choosing to buy cheap Chinese goods? Are they forcing Walmart and Amazon to carry those goods? Are they responsible for the low wages Americans are making? Did they move manufacturing overseas? Otherwise a water tight theory ..

netsharc 6y ago

If you're going to throw generalities: Meanwhile the Right believes a guy named Q, that Biden stole the election (despite Giuliani Total Landscaping providing zero evidence), that there's a furniture store selling missing kids hiding in plain sight... Sure, not all of "The Right", but as I said, generalities. Your bias is showing, and you're totally blinded by propaganda as badly as you accuse some others.

Melting_Harps 6y ago

> Not only is China growing in power and influence, as you point out, it has been investing in American media and other industries. They're famous for playing their strategic game over a long span of time (the long game). The CCP has actual slave labour camps using the Uyghur people, they have illegally annexed Hong Kong and have been jailing and killing people in broad day light. Several CCP members and Carrie Lam have been barred from International finance that prevents them from funneling their funds to save havens (read: NOT CHINA) and no longer have bank accounts. And you think they're gaining influence over this? Australia is being chastised for asking the wrong questions over COVID, and the countless lies and coverups. Several countries, the US included, have put legislation to take in the outpouring of refugees who are not being jailed for trying to flee, and you think this is gaining them influence in the World? No, the issue here is that Supply Chains are so deeply embedded in China due to the hollowing out the US economy and its manufacturing so they are the mercy of the CCP's desertion of whether to maintain them, so heads of state who are beholden to their Corporate masters (who created this outsourcing craze) will instead simply try to divert your attention in order for you to just look away. The divisiveness to me serves no other purpose, and they don't need tick-tock to show them that, simply looking at how working class people are getting screwed over by local/state/federal government in the US is enough to enrage any sane person. We're just seeing the delayed aftermath of it. But be under no illusion: the World HATES the CCP and its horrible Crimes Against Humanity, but this breach is still nothing compared to something like Stuxnet. The only thing that one can see is the imperative for the World to de-couple from the China, which is easier said then done, and Xi and the CCP know its coming and have made it clear that they are going to start focusing on becoming more insular economy focusing on local demand.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> My pet theory is that Hollywood, Silicon Valley and the Left are thoroughly (and probably unwittingly) influenced by the infiltration, and are the medium for memes and messaging that divides us so much. It's as though we're about to re-fight the Civil War. Interesting you should attribute that to “Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and the Left” since the people spreading memes and propaganda literally advocating either a new Civil War and publicly advocating military overthrow of the lawfully elected government are on the Right (the former groups like the Boogaloo bois; the latter a number of prominent figures, including recently pardoned former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn.) > China, the master that it is at cultural revolution and re-education, is playing a shrewd game. Both the pro-Trump elites counselling extra-Constitutional violence and some of the more (superficially, at least) grassroots groups in the White nationalist/supremacist vein preaching race war have been well documented to have been engaged with and influenced by Russia; China less so.