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I think the comment is more directed at folks who, and I noticed this weird behavior the other day myself, post tirades about the cardboard box being slightly d

I think the comment is more directed at folks who, and I noticed this weird behavior the other day myself, post tirades about the cardboard box being slightly damaged (while the goods and packaging inside are completely fine). These in particular are more akin to saying: "hey this protective outer barrier did it's job, had a scratch on the shipping label, and successfully protected the contents. The contents were IN PERFECT CONDITION, 1 star review!!! CONSUMER RIGHTS!11!11!!1 REFUND NOW DAMAGED BOX" The real weird part though; is how the outer packaging regardless of the quality of what is inside the box (their actual goods purchased) dominates their reviews. It's like a whole subculture, or something, I can't even begin to understand. The internet never ceases to to amaze me for the sheer breadth of absurdity one can find.

lovemenot 6y ago
The behaviour you describe would be considered normal in Japan. There it's not a sub-culture. Pretty much any Japanese buyer would consider the packaging as part-and-parcel. And they'd complain in case of defective packaging, regardless of its functional impact.
- exclusiv 6y ago
  That's so ridiculous to me. But the Japanese are also big on robot and virtual girlfriends. To each their own.
  - justatdotin 6y ago
    meanwhile you americans are into fleshlights,
    - 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
      and indians into cows..... ow
    - skinnymuch 6y ago
      Flesh lights sucks. Japan make quality ones as far as I’ve heard. Far better than basic flesh lights. Kudos to Japan for that.
    - exclusiv 6y ago
      I highly doubt that's a significant percentage but I don't need to defend someone's sex toy even though you felt the need to defend a virtual girlfriend. That's their deal. But a virtual/robotic girlfriend is pathetic to me. In almost any country if you told a female you had one, they'd think that too. In fact, it would likely remove any chance you had at dating them if you wanted to. That's reality. What I referenced earlier is a real thing in Japan. And a concern to many, including the government. "a study by the Japanese government showed there to be 500,000 hikikomori (shut-ins) aged 16 to 39. “The initial findings before 2000 were that it was mostly young people. However, we have seen a marked increase in hikikomori amongst middle-aged and old people,” he says." [1] For such a populated island, the Japanese are very lonely. A lot has to do with the aging population of course. Loneliness is a sad thing. "A whole industry also has sprung up to provide company to younger customers, primarily men, who aren’t having human relationships. (A 2013 study found that 30 percent of Japanese men in their 20s and 30s had never dated.) Gatebox has developed the anime-inspired VR-companion, tailored toward younger men who, due to long work hours or other reasons, prefer the company of a virtual partner." [1] Separately, I'll add that I find it ridiculous that a sizable percentage of Australians don't wear shoes. Almost every animal over there wants to kill you. Why do they go shoeless in public? It's not a poor country. Has to be something else. Can you provide any insight? [1] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/japan-loneliness-aging-robots-technology_n_5b72873ae4b0530743cd04aa https://www.huffpost.com/entry/japan-loneliness-aging-robots...
- presentation 6y ago
  As someone who lives in Japan that’s a behavior that a loud minority of unreasonable people exhibit, but most Japanese people I know don’t mind damage from transit like most well-adjusted humans anywhere - the delivery person might point it out when you sign for the package but it’s not a big deal. It’s more important for gifts and stuff though where the presentation is part of the gesture.
  - lovemenot 6y ago
    I was more thinking about B2B shipments, than consumer. The general presumption upon receipt of product at the loading dock in Japan is that slightly damaged packaging is a quality issue. It is applied to domestic and global suppliers alike. But the latter may sometimes fail to understand and vainly push back. These are well-adjusted humans too. Just operating under a different set of criteria w.r.t. quality.
runawaybottle 6y ago
So, is it weird to say they expected the literal outer packaging to be pristine as well? I’m just saying, there must a textbook worth of analysis we can do on these people. The list of these people is totally publicly available too, it would be great to just examine their world view to understand just who is actually wandering around out there. There’s no way their pathology doesn’t bleed into how they impact life.

lovemenot 6y ago

The behaviour you describe would be considered normal in Japan. There it's not a sub-culture. Pretty much any Japanese buyer would consider the packaging as part-and-parcel. And they'd complain in case of defective packaging, regardless of its functional impact.

exclusiv 6y ago
That's so ridiculous to me. But the Japanese are also big on robot and virtual girlfriends. To each their own.
- justatdotin 6y ago
  meanwhile you americans are into fleshlights,
  - 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
    and indians into cows..... ow
  - skinnymuch 6y ago
    Flesh lights sucks. Japan make quality ones as far as I’ve heard. Far better than basic flesh lights. Kudos to Japan for that.
  - exclusiv 6y ago
    I highly doubt that's a significant percentage but I don't need to defend someone's sex toy even though you felt the need to defend a virtual girlfriend. That's their deal. But a virtual/robotic girlfriend is pathetic to me. In almost any country if you told a female you had one, they'd think that too. In fact, it would likely remove any chance you had at dating them if you wanted to. That's reality. What I referenced earlier is a real thing in Japan. And a concern to many, including the government. "a study by the Japanese government showed there to be 500,000 hikikomori (shut-ins) aged 16 to 39. “The initial findings before 2000 were that it was mostly young people. However, we have seen a marked increase in hikikomori amongst middle-aged and old people,” he says." [1] For such a populated island, the Japanese are very lonely. A lot has to do with the aging population of course. Loneliness is a sad thing. "A whole industry also has sprung up to provide company to younger customers, primarily men, who aren’t having human relationships. (A 2013 study found that 30 percent of Japanese men in their 20s and 30s had never dated.) Gatebox has developed the anime-inspired VR-companion, tailored toward younger men who, due to long work hours or other reasons, prefer the company of a virtual partner." [1] Separately, I'll add that I find it ridiculous that a sizable percentage of Australians don't wear shoes. Almost every animal over there wants to kill you. Why do they go shoeless in public? It's not a poor country. Has to be something else. Can you provide any insight? [1] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/japan-loneliness-aging-robots-technology_n_5b72873ae4b0530743cd04aa https://www.huffpost.com/entry/japan-loneliness-aging-robots...
presentation 6y ago
As someone who lives in Japan that’s a behavior that a loud minority of unreasonable people exhibit, but most Japanese people I know don’t mind damage from transit like most well-adjusted humans anywhere - the delivery person might point it out when you sign for the package but it’s not a big deal. It’s more important for gifts and stuff though where the presentation is part of the gesture.
- lovemenot 6y ago
  I was more thinking about B2B shipments, than consumer. The general presumption upon receipt of product at the loading dock in Japan is that slightly damaged packaging is a quality issue. It is applied to domestic and global suppliers alike. But the latter may sometimes fail to understand and vainly push back. These are well-adjusted humans too. Just operating under a different set of criteria w.r.t. quality.

runawaybottle 6y ago

So, is it weird to say they expected the literal outer packaging to be pristine as well? I’m just saying, there must a textbook worth of analysis we can do on these people. The list of these people is totally publicly available too, it would be great to just examine their world view to understand just who is actually wandering around out there. There’s no way their pathology doesn’t bleed into how they impact life.