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> was because it showed initial promise - first in China and then outside of China This is incorrect. The idea of using HCQ didn't come from China but from a F

> was because it showed initial promise - first in China and then outside of China This is incorrect. The idea of using HCQ didn't come from China but from a French doctor, nor did China ever promote using HCQ as a treatment. See the timeline for HCQ in connection with Covid [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine#Timeline https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine#Timeline

eloff 6y ago
You're going to need a better source than wikipedia if you want to convince me of that. Does hydroxychloroquine combat COVID-19? A timeline of evidence [1]: On February 17, 2020, the State Council of China held a news conference indicating that chloroquine (CQ) had demonstrated efficacy in treating COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter, non-randomized, clinical trials.2,3 This prompted multiple clinical trials in China. [1] https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(20)30607-1/pdf https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(20)30607-1/pdf
- me_me_me 6y ago
  It is such a wonder drug that trump wasn't treated with it when he contracted covid. I don't really care nothing that anyone will say is going to change your mind anyhow. An actual study and not a political statements from CPP breadcrumbs (that are used control its population amidst highest rates in their pandemic): https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638 Dude you are trying to discredit cited wiki and you brought a non-statement single page that aggregates Chinese sources from beginning of a year. here is a quote from that pdf: >To date, despite enough rationale to justify investigation into the efficacy and safety of HCQ inCOVID-19 (Table II),14,15the evidence regarding itseffect remains limited. HCQ has not yet received United States Food and Drug Administration approval for use against COVID-19, and further trials are needed to establish guidelines. If emerging data from ongoing trials establishes the efficacy of HCQ for prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19, triage will be important to ensure that existing supplies are used appropriately The conclusion of your 'evidence' is a call to do trials.
  - eloff 6y ago
    > I don't really care nothing that anyone will say is going to change your mind anyhow I already changed my mind, you just have reading comprehension issues apparently. > Dude you are trying to discredit cited wiki and you brought a non-statement single page that aggregates Chinese sources from beginning of a year. I'm arguing that China was the first country to propose that treatment using HCQ might be effective. I'm NOT arguing that it is effective. I'm merely supporting my statement about the timeline which someone challenged with a wikipedia link. Someone called that false, and it's not - it's history. > The conclusion of your 'evidence' is a call to do trials. Work on that reading comprehension, I never called it evidence of efficacy.
    - me_me_me 6y ago
      Then why the hell are you still taking? HCQ is not effective and that's the conclusve statement. Who cares that back in jan some kooks tried to be famous based on non blinded study on 10 patients?

eloff 6y ago

You're going to need a better source than wikipedia if you want to convince me of that. Does hydroxychloroquine combat COVID-19? A timeline of evidence [1]: On February 17, 2020, the State Council of China held a news conference indicating that chloroquine (CQ) had demonstrated efficacy in treating COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter, non-randomized, clinical trials.2,3 This prompted multiple clinical trials in China. [1] https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(20)30607-1/pdf https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(20)30607-1/pdf

me_me_me 6y ago
It is such a wonder drug that trump wasn't treated with it when he contracted covid. I don't really care nothing that anyone will say is going to change your mind anyhow. An actual study and not a political statements from CPP breadcrumbs (that are used control its population amidst highest rates in their pandemic): https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638 Dude you are trying to discredit cited wiki and you brought a non-statement single page that aggregates Chinese sources from beginning of a year. here is a quote from that pdf: >To date, despite enough rationale to justify investigation into the efficacy and safety of HCQ inCOVID-19 (Table II),14,15the evidence regarding itseffect remains limited. HCQ has not yet received United States Food and Drug Administration approval for use against COVID-19, and further trials are needed to establish guidelines. If emerging data from ongoing trials establishes the efficacy of HCQ for prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19, triage will be important to ensure that existing supplies are used appropriately The conclusion of your 'evidence' is a call to do trials.
- eloff 6y ago
  > I don't really care nothing that anyone will say is going to change your mind anyhow I already changed my mind, you just have reading comprehension issues apparently. > Dude you are trying to discredit cited wiki and you brought a non-statement single page that aggregates Chinese sources from beginning of a year. I'm arguing that China was the first country to propose that treatment using HCQ might be effective. I'm NOT arguing that it is effective. I'm merely supporting my statement about the timeline which someone challenged with a wikipedia link. Someone called that false, and it's not - it's history. > The conclusion of your 'evidence' is a call to do trials. Work on that reading comprehension, I never called it evidence of efficacy.
  - me_me_me 6y ago
    Then why the hell are you still taking? HCQ is not effective and that's the conclusve statement. Who cares that back in jan some kooks tried to be famous based on non blinded study on 10 patients?