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Are you aware that smoking cannabis is absolutely nothing like rape? and moreover is already legal in many U.S. states where cannabis can be grown and sold lega

Are you aware that smoking cannabis is absolutely nothing like rape? and moreover is already legal in many U.S. states where cannabis can be grown and sold legally??? Also, Porn is already legal.* And it is already accepted by large portions of the population. Making porn more acceptable doesn't end the rape problem.

farias0 6y ago
I don't know, I think that if we treated it as less of a taboo we could popularize regulations and unions and stuff like this.
- scpedicini 6y ago
  Yeah, kinda reminds me of the legalized prostitution that is heavily regulated by the government in the Netherlands.
hackinthebochs 6y ago
>Are you aware that smoking cannabis is absolutely nothing like rape? You severely missed the point. The comparison was between the relatively lack of outcry over cannabis smokers who presumably enable atrocities carried out by drug cartels in Colombia and elsewhere.
- sushisource 6y ago
  Coke users might have been a more apt analogy given weed is increasingly legal around the world, but, yeah. Wooosh
- gamblor956 6y ago
  No, did not miss the point because you didn't make one. Cannabis wasn't grown in Colombia until very recently; cocaine has always been it's primary drug export, and unlike cannabis, cocaine has not been legal in the U.S. (or most of the West) during the lifetime of anyone alive today. If you had said cocaine from the beginning I might have agreed with your sentiment if not the specific details, because porn has enabled sex trafficking and CP and other heinous crimes. But you clearly meant cannabis, not cocaine, and so your statement doesn't make any sense.
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- snypher 6y ago
  Their comparison was entirely fabricated so I can rest easy in missing the point. Is the point; most things have an undesirable aspect that is disregarded by the consumer? It's best to avoid analogy when the analogy isn't true.
  - kryogen1c 6y ago
    > It's best to avoid analogy when the analogy isn't true. surely you jest. are you unaware of the violence, death, and suffering created by the black markets from illegal drugs? the comparison is very apt: keeping porn "in the dark" allows for a generally underadvantaged population like sex workers to be taken advantage of because there is not an abundance of legal, regulated institutions for them to be a part of. similarly, illegal drugs proliferate in dangerous circumstances because there is no other option.
leakybit 6y ago
Where are you getting that women getting raped or abused is unique to only the porn industry? Is there any hard data, or is this just some bs that people assume happens in porn.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  I don't claim that rape is unique to the porn industry; only that porn makes it worse. (Porn can be addictive, so supply increases demand increases supply. This has been documented with respect to CP. As those studies require library access, I will leave it to the reader to find someone with academic library access to read those articles.) The major studios are a small part of the problem, however, it's the non-U.S. and underground scene that generates most of the problematic content.
  - judge2020 6y ago
    > As those studies require library access You can include references without linking.
  - MikeUt 6y ago
    Evidence Mounts: More Porn, Less Sexual Assault: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601... How the Web Prevents Rape: All that Internet porn reduces sex crimes. Really: https://slate.com/culture/2006/10/proof-that-internet-porn-prevents-rape.html https://slate.com/culture/2006/10/proof-that-internet-porn-p... In addition, the study finds that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible.: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.h... These studies?
    - snicker7 6y ago
      This correlation seems incredibly spurious.

farias0 6y ago

I don't know, I think that if we treated it as less of a taboo we could popularize regulations and unions and stuff like this.

scpedicini 6y ago
Yeah, kinda reminds me of the legalized prostitution that is heavily regulated by the government in the Netherlands.

hackinthebochs 6y ago

>Are you aware that smoking cannabis is absolutely nothing like rape? You severely missed the point. The comparison was between the relatively lack of outcry over cannabis smokers who presumably enable atrocities carried out by drug cartels in Colombia and elsewhere.

sushisource 6y ago
Coke users might have been a more apt analogy given weed is increasingly legal around the world, but, yeah. Wooosh
gamblor956 6y ago
No, did not miss the point because you didn't make one. Cannabis wasn't grown in Colombia until very recently; cocaine has always been it's primary drug export, and unlike cannabis, cocaine has not been legal in the U.S. (or most of the West) during the lifetime of anyone alive today. If you had said cocaine from the beginning I might have agreed with your sentiment if not the specific details, because porn has enabled sex trafficking and CP and other heinous crimes. But you clearly meant cannabis, not cocaine, and so your statement doesn't make any sense.
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snypher 6y ago
Their comparison was entirely fabricated so I can rest easy in missing the point. Is the point; most things have an undesirable aspect that is disregarded by the consumer? It's best to avoid analogy when the analogy isn't true.
- kryogen1c 6y ago
  > It's best to avoid analogy when the analogy isn't true. surely you jest. are you unaware of the violence, death, and suffering created by the black markets from illegal drugs? the comparison is very apt: keeping porn "in the dark" allows for a generally underadvantaged population like sex workers to be taken advantage of because there is not an abundance of legal, regulated institutions for them to be a part of. similarly, illegal drugs proliferate in dangerous circumstances because there is no other option.

leakybit 6y ago

Where are you getting that women getting raped or abused is unique to only the porn industry? Is there any hard data, or is this just some bs that people assume happens in porn.

gamblor956 6y ago
I don't claim that rape is unique to the porn industry; only that porn makes it worse. (Porn can be addictive, so supply increases demand increases supply. This has been documented with respect to CP. As those studies require library access, I will leave it to the reader to find someone with academic library access to read those articles.) The major studios are a small part of the problem, however, it's the non-U.S. and underground scene that generates most of the problematic content.
- judge2020 6y ago
  > As those studies require library access You can include references without linking.
- MikeUt 6y ago
  Evidence Mounts: More Porn, Less Sexual Assault: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601... How the Web Prevents Rape: All that Internet porn reduces sex crimes. Really: https://slate.com/culture/2006/10/proof-that-internet-porn-prevents-rape.html https://slate.com/culture/2006/10/proof-that-internet-porn-p... In addition, the study finds that the incidence of child sex abuse has fallen since 1989, when child pornography became readily accessible.: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101130111326.h... These studies?
  - snicker7 6y ago
    This correlation seems incredibly spurious.