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HN will excuse Apple, just as you have.

yborg 6y ago
No, HN will rush to Cupertino with torches and pitchforks based on an inflammatory headline without clicking on the link and realizing that: - Apple hasn't officially said anything about this. The linked rantpost is verklempt because it's been 4 weeks since the release of a major OS revision supporting a new processor architecture and a standalone installer hasn't been provided (yet). And here are his given arguments for the Collapse of American Way and Civilization in General if this situation continues: - It's hard to reinstall Safari. This basically happens ... never. I've been running OS X since the beta and have never had to reinstall Safari. - It would make it difficult to recreate a specific point release in the future. This is valid, but also a rare use case and this doesn't prevent you from doing it, you just have to apply the incrementals from Apple. - It would eliminate "An effective panacea for some system problems." I think I applied a combo update to fix some hosed up printer drivers after an HP update screwed the pooch one time but I could have just loaded an earlier version. This goes into the general category of "zapping the PRAM" to fix issues which originated from a real problem this actually corrected 20 years ago and morphed into a mystical incantation to utter when you have no idea wtf is wrong with the computer and don't feel like praying the rosary over it.
varvar 6y ago
When was HN into excusing Apple? It's pretty much run of the mill apple emotional hate club. Quote from the thread "Apple finally has shown their true colours and no form of hardware or software advancement will push me to use their products. Can you imagine the world without Linux or BSD alternatives? What a nightmare."
- ksk 6y ago
  Well, nerds get mad when you take away controls that existed for.. ever. Is your individuality perfectly expressed through the system preferences that Apple thinks you should have or through exercising your UNIX nerd cred by opening the hatch and messing with the guts? :)
- ineedasername 6y ago
  It always seems a pretty even mix of anti-Apple & Apple apologists. It would be a fun project to run an sentiment classifier against Apple related comments to see what the ratio actually is.
- nbzso 6y ago
  Yep. Emotional Hate Club. After 20 years of using their products may be I know something more than a regular Apple wannabe in 2020. In 2006 paying equivalent of 4000EUR in cold cash for a laptop was no small feet in my country - actually this was a price for very good second hand car at the time. And surprise: it was worth every god damn penny. Since then all of my office computers and computers of my staff are made by Apple. For a long time this company offered a perfect blend for any kind of production. Since the big success of the iPhone things slowly faded away. At first Apple killed Studio Suite, then made Final Cut Pro from professional software to semi pro kids toy, started telemetry without user consent (I use Little Snitch from second version of the software, etc), touch bar nonsense, keyboard quality nonsense, repairability nonsense and still no good web camera. But hey, M1 will change everything. For good.:) In the future Apple will be old IBM on steroids. Personal Gatekeeper for common good. Enjoy your prison kids, war is peace - freedom is slavery - ignorance is strength.

No, HN will rush to Cupertino with torches and pitchforks based on an inflammatory headline without clicking on the link and realizing that: - Apple hasn't officially said anything about this. The linked rantpost is verklempt because it's been 4 weeks since the release of a major OS revision supporting a new processor architecture and a standalone installer hasn't been provided (yet). And here are his given arguments for the Collapse of American Way and Civilization in General if this situation continues: - It's hard to reinstall Safari. This basically happens ... never. I've been running OS X since the beta and have never had to reinstall Safari. - It would make it difficult to recreate a specific point release in the future. This is valid, but also a rare use case and this doesn't prevent you from doing it, you just have to apply the incrementals from Apple. - It would eliminate "An effective panacea for some system problems." I think I applied a combo update to fix some hosed up printer drivers after an HP update screwed the pooch one time but I could have just loaded an earlier version. This goes into the general category of "zapping the PRAM" to fix issues which originated from a real problem this actually corrected 20 years ago and morphed into a mystical incantation to utter when you have no idea wtf is wrong with the computer and don't feel like praying the rosary over it.

varvar 6y ago

When was HN into excusing Apple? It's pretty much run of the mill apple emotional hate club. Quote from the thread "Apple finally has shown their true colours and no form of hardware or software advancement will push me to use their products. Can you imagine the world without Linux or BSD alternatives? What a nightmare."

ksk 6y ago
Well, nerds get mad when you take away controls that existed for.. ever. Is your individuality perfectly expressed through the system preferences that Apple thinks you should have or through exercising your UNIX nerd cred by opening the hatch and messing with the guts? :)
ineedasername 6y ago
It always seems a pretty even mix of anti-Apple & Apple apologists. It would be a fun project to run an sentiment classifier against Apple related comments to see what the ratio actually is.
nbzso 6y ago
Yep. Emotional Hate Club. After 20 years of using their products may be I know something more than a regular Apple wannabe in 2020. In 2006 paying equivalent of 4000EUR in cold cash for a laptop was no small feet in my country - actually this was a price for very good second hand car at the time. And surprise: it was worth every god damn penny. Since then all of my office computers and computers of my staff are made by Apple. For a long time this company offered a perfect blend for any kind of production. Since the big success of the iPhone things slowly faded away. At first Apple killed Studio Suite, then made Final Cut Pro from professional software to semi pro kids toy, started telemetry without user consent (I use Little Snitch from second version of the software, etc), touch bar nonsense, keyboard quality nonsense, repairability nonsense and still no good web camera. But hey, M1 will change everything. For good.:) In the future Apple will be old IBM on steroids. Personal Gatekeeper for common good. Enjoy your prison kids, war is peace - freedom is slavery - ignorance is strength.