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That doesn't work. Doing that basically encourages people to lie to you, and poisons the relationship. Everyone trying to lose weight will cheat, and it is ofte

That doesn't work. Doing that basically encourages people to lie to you, and poisons the relationship. Everyone trying to lose weight will cheat, and it is often the response to that cheating that determines your ability to continue. By making cheating shameful, you are basically guaranteeing failure (this is a corollary of the idea that places that don't have obesity shame fat people...naturally appealing to places with a history of Puritarinism, but largely ineffective). You can only lose weight once you have the motivation and knowledge that you can apply to do it yourself (the stuff about processed food, for example, is utter psuedo-science nonsense that significantly confuses the issue into "good" and "bad" foods...again, Puritarinism).

mike00632 6y ago
I imagine the "you" in this case to be the person losing weight. If I want to lose weight then I'm going make such a commitment and it doesn't really matter who I send the photos to. It's rather just an exercise in documenting what I eat. I'd send the photos to you if you agreed to be my accountabili-buddy.
- hogFeast 6y ago
  Again, that works if you assume that you won't fail at any point and/or react poorly to failure. But you will fail at some point, and very few people are determined enough to continue. Investing yourself creates risk. It is far more effective to take a less judgemental approach, track the things that matter, and do it for yourself...not because you don't want to be shamed (most fat people get a rough ride, shame isn't a long term strategy).
  - bonoboTP 6y ago
    Ultimately you can't make people want something and shouldn't get too caught up trying to please their resisting minds. Lay out the information, people who want it will take it. Judgment and shame shouldn't enter the picture. Your body is a biological machine. Cheating is a misplaced word. You put the materials in there, they get digested and used for storage or energy. It's not some kind of magic or divine thing. Thinking in terms of failure / guilt / success etc. is bad altogether. The mental model becomes [ritual I do] -> [the fatness/fitness gods are pleased or judgy] -> [I get fat or fit]. Instead, you need to think in terms of [put this piece of food from hands to stomach] -> [it gets digested and enters the blood stream, etc] -> [I grow my fat cells] -> [I am fat].
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  If you want to lose weight decrease your exposure to marketing. Watch less TV, avoid aisles of supermarkets with branded packaged products, don't read celebrity gossip etc. Cook simple non-fancy foods that is not hyped by influencers.

mike00632 6y ago

I imagine the "you" in this case to be the person losing weight. If I want to lose weight then I'm going make such a commitment and it doesn't really matter who I send the photos to. It's rather just an exercise in documenting what I eat. I'd send the photos to you if you agreed to be my accountabili-buddy.

hogFeast 6y ago
Again, that works if you assume that you won't fail at any point and/or react poorly to failure. But you will fail at some point, and very few people are determined enough to continue. Investing yourself creates risk. It is far more effective to take a less judgemental approach, track the things that matter, and do it for yourself...not because you don't want to be shamed (most fat people get a rough ride, shame isn't a long term strategy).
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  Ultimately you can't make people want something and shouldn't get too caught up trying to please their resisting minds. Lay out the information, people who want it will take it. Judgment and shame shouldn't enter the picture. Your body is a biological machine. Cheating is a misplaced word. You put the materials in there, they get digested and used for storage or energy. It's not some kind of magic or divine thing. Thinking in terms of failure / guilt / success etc. is bad altogether. The mental model becomes [ritual I do] -> [the fatness/fitness gods are pleased or judgy] -> [I get fat or fit]. Instead, you need to think in terms of [put this piece of food from hands to stomach] -> [it gets digested and enters the blood stream, etc] -> [I grow my fat cells] -> [I am fat].
bonoboTP 6y ago
If you want to lose weight decrease your exposure to marketing. Watch less TV, avoid aisles of supermarkets with branded packaged products, don't read celebrity gossip etc. Cook simple non-fancy foods that is not hyped by influencers.