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Melatonin is a hormone that can assist you with falling asleep, but it has no capability to keep you asleep or allow you to reach the 4 stages of deep sleep. A

Melatonin is a hormone that can assist you with falling asleep, but it has no capability to keep you asleep or allow you to reach the 4 stages of deep sleep. Ambien is worse, in that it can make you feel like you are going to sleep, but you will not get into the deep states of sleep required for the brain to detoxify itself. The same is true for weed. Some folks use weed to help themselves sleep, but they are actually depriving themselves of the 4 stages of deep sleep. Chronic use of Ambien, weed and other drugs can cause a person to have mild hallucinations, delirium tremens or worse. This will be an unpopular opinion, but I believe the better method of improving sleep is to improve eating habits, go easy on caffeine, get exercise, get rid of artificial light hours before going to sleep and stay away from people and things that cause you stress. Easier said than done.

mancerayder 6y ago
I think melatonin and ambien are longer-lasting in their neurological effects than THC. People use fat solubility and detection to counter that, but I don't buy it since that's separate from effect.
hertzrat 6y ago
I was under the impression that melatonin regulates your sleep wake cycle, and so you take it to do a reset, not to just get to sleep one night
- LinuxBender 6y ago
  When you consume it as a supplement, you are inducing what your body would normally produce anyway if you are in normal cycles and in the dark. The only difference is dosage. Your body produces very small amounts. Stores sell pills that range from 1mg to 10mg and sometimes even higher. Even 1mg is a lot. That is why they suggest you stop taking it for a couple weeks, every few months. One use of melatonin is to attempt to reset a sleep cycle if your cycles have been thrown off by travel or other circumstances. Other uses are unrelated to sleep and have interactions with the gut. Hormones are almost always multipurpose. Melatonin has no ability to keep you asleep however. Resetting your sleep cycles can take a day, a few days or weeks depending on your age, health, hormone levels and environment. In terms of wake cycle, your body will metabolize the melatonin and then later start producing more adrenaline. As people get older and if damage has occurred to their adrenal glands, or a myriad of other problems, then they may start producing adrenaline too soon and wake up early, feeling anxiety. This can also be a result of too much Cortisol (stress response hormone). These hormones are a complex topic all by themselves, even leaving out confounding factors.
  - hertzrat 6y ago
    If you get the melatonin strips that dissolve on your tongue, you can cut them into 1/8ths and the dose becomes more reasonable (0.3ish instead of 3mg) What you said about adrenaline in the morning - very interesting!
hurrdurr2 6y ago
Thc is found to increase deep sleep and reduce rem, which isn't ideal but significantly better than RX drugs like ambien and benzos.

mancerayder 6y ago

I think melatonin and ambien are longer-lasting in their neurological effects than THC. People use fat solubility and detection to counter that, but I don't buy it since that's separate from effect.

hertzrat 6y ago

I was under the impression that melatonin regulates your sleep wake cycle, and so you take it to do a reset, not to just get to sleep one night

LinuxBender 6y ago
When you consume it as a supplement, you are inducing what your body would normally produce anyway if you are in normal cycles and in the dark. The only difference is dosage. Your body produces very small amounts. Stores sell pills that range from 1mg to 10mg and sometimes even higher. Even 1mg is a lot. That is why they suggest you stop taking it for a couple weeks, every few months. One use of melatonin is to attempt to reset a sleep cycle if your cycles have been thrown off by travel or other circumstances. Other uses are unrelated to sleep and have interactions with the gut. Hormones are almost always multipurpose. Melatonin has no ability to keep you asleep however. Resetting your sleep cycles can take a day, a few days or weeks depending on your age, health, hormone levels and environment. In terms of wake cycle, your body will metabolize the melatonin and then later start producing more adrenaline. As people get older and if damage has occurred to their adrenal glands, or a myriad of other problems, then they may start producing adrenaline too soon and wake up early, feeling anxiety. This can also be a result of too much Cortisol (stress response hormone). These hormones are a complex topic all by themselves, even leaving out confounding factors.
- hertzrat 6y ago
  If you get the melatonin strips that dissolve on your tongue, you can cut them into 1/8ths and the dose becomes more reasonable (0.3ish instead of 3mg) What you said about adrenaline in the morning - very interesting!

hurrdurr2 6y ago

Thc is found to increase deep sleep and reduce rem, which isn't ideal but significantly better than RX drugs like ambien and benzos.