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Has anyone ever seen one of these things with their eyeballs? Or is it all... electronic sensors? US electronic warfare is top shelf sorcery.

dogma1138 6y ago
The pilots seen them with their Mark I EyeBalls.
NortySpock 6y ago
Joe Rogan interviewed David Fravor, a retired Navy pilot, alongside a documentary maker who was interested in UFOs. The conversation was cautious but not particularly skeptical. It sounded like Mr. Fravor saw something in his airspace with his own two eyes. I don't know what it was (blimp, foreign aircraft, whatever), though I doubt it was extraterrestrial. (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence) I couldn't spot anything obviously wrong with Mr. Fravor's story by itself. On the other hand, if the DoD wanted to nudge their pilots to report things they see, and had a story like David Fravor's to put out there in order to encourage current pilots to report what they see, that would be a propaganda event to encourage, so to speak, at least by declassifying harmless footage and not squashing the story. https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ
- subsubzero 6y ago
  I saw the Fravor interview with Joe Rogan. Lex Fridman interviewed him as well and that was pretty detailed. Its an interesting case as you had radar data(unsure if that was released) along with pilot eyewitnesses from both Fravor and the other fighter jet pilot that saw it. What Fravor said about the craft was if it was US based why have it be in an active area where fighter jets are training(this could lead to collisions etc).
- throwaway316943 6y ago
  If you take him at his word then whatever he saw was not something we know how to build. Not unless you have a blimp that can go from hovering over the ocean to matching a Super Hornet in a tight spiral, cut across the middle and accelerate so fast that it’s gone in a blink. He could be lying though.
  - rmrfstar 6y ago
    Yeah, if you had a crazy new electronic warfare technique you'd probably spread as much FUD as you could. You'd also spread FUD if you had nothing, Star Wars style. It's definitely one of those two things.

dogma1138 6y ago

The pilots seen them with their Mark I EyeBalls.

NortySpock 6y ago

Joe Rogan interviewed David Fravor, a retired Navy pilot, alongside a documentary maker who was interested in UFOs. The conversation was cautious but not particularly skeptical. It sounded like Mr. Fravor saw something in his airspace with his own two eyes. I don't know what it was (blimp, foreign aircraft, whatever), though I doubt it was extraterrestrial. (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence) I couldn't spot anything obviously wrong with Mr. Fravor's story by itself. On the other hand, if the DoD wanted to nudge their pilots to report things they see, and had a story like David Fravor's to put out there in order to encourage current pilots to report what they see, that would be a propaganda event to encourage, so to speak, at least by declassifying harmless footage and not squashing the story. https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ

subsubzero 6y ago
I saw the Fravor interview with Joe Rogan. Lex Fridman interviewed him as well and that was pretty detailed. Its an interesting case as you had radar data(unsure if that was released) along with pilot eyewitnesses from both Fravor and the other fighter jet pilot that saw it. What Fravor said about the craft was if it was US based why have it be in an active area where fighter jets are training(this could lead to collisions etc).
throwaway316943 6y ago
If you take him at his word then whatever he saw was not something we know how to build. Not unless you have a blimp that can go from hovering over the ocean to matching a Super Hornet in a tight spiral, cut across the middle and accelerate so fast that it’s gone in a blink. He could be lying though.
- rmrfstar 6y ago
  Yeah, if you had a crazy new electronic warfare technique you'd probably spread as much FUD as you could. You'd also spread FUD if you had nothing, Star Wars style. It's definitely one of those two things.