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> the entity cannot offer a degraded service Does this mean that sites that offer free but ad-supported content still have to offer that content? So I can watc

by OzzyB 6y ago

> the entity cannot offer a degraded service Does this mean that sites that offer free but ad-supported content still have to offer that content? So I can watch those free Youtube movies and listen to those Spotify tracks ad-free because EU Law says fuck you. How is this fair? Edit: Okay, okay, non-targeted (and no 3rd party) ads are okay, got it xD

jmartinpetersen 6y ago
How does no 3rd party tracking without consent mean "ad-free"?
Macha 6y ago
Spotify can show you non-targeted or contextually targeted ads, as is done with TV, radio, print media, movie theaters, billboards, etc. The fact that spotify doesn't want to because it's less profitable is where EU law says fuck you.
zeta0134 6y ago
Those ads will just have to be served without the tracking. You know, like how it has worked for decades on television and radio.
tinus_hn 6y ago
You can display ads just fine without using cookies. You just can’t track people across the web. Also Spotify can easily require a free login and associate everything with that, no tracking cookies required. They just can’t associate your playlist with your web browsing habits.
rndgermandude 6y ago
No, it just means those ad-supported sites cannot use cookies to spy on you in the name of personalized ads. They are still free to display "generic" ads including content-related ads. Same as old school TV, radio and print ads really, which couldn't track me either but sustained those broadcasting companies and publishers well enough.
atoav 6y ago
Billboards, newsletter ads, flyers etc won't track whether you look at them as well, and last time I checked print advertisement still kinda sold. Tracking is not necessary to show ads. Certainly there are business models which depend on this, but hey who says our society benefits from those? Targeted advertisement and free informed democracies don't mix well IMO.
- ocdtrekkie 6y ago
  Especially ironically, Facebook has been taking out newspaper ads to whine about how it needs targeted advertising to survive, and how mean Apple is harming them.

by OzzyB 6y ago

jmartinpetersen 6y ago

How does no 3rd party tracking without consent mean "ad-free"?

Macha 6y ago

Spotify can show you non-targeted or contextually targeted ads, as is done with TV, radio, print media, movie theaters, billboards, etc. The fact that spotify doesn't want to because it's less profitable is where EU law says fuck you.

zeta0134 6y ago

Those ads will just have to be served without the tracking. You know, like how it has worked for decades on television and radio.

tinus_hn 6y ago

You can display ads just fine without using cookies. You just can’t track people across the web. Also Spotify can easily require a free login and associate everything with that, no tracking cookies required. They just can’t associate your playlist with your web browsing habits.

rndgermandude 6y ago

No, it just means those ad-supported sites cannot use cookies to spy on you in the name of personalized ads. They are still free to display "generic" ads including content-related ads. Same as old school TV, radio and print ads really, which couldn't track me either but sustained those broadcasting companies and publishers well enough.

atoav 6y ago

Billboards, newsletter ads, flyers etc won't track whether you look at them as well, and last time I checked print advertisement still kinda sold. Tracking is not necessary to show ads. Certainly there are business models which depend on this, but hey who says our society benefits from those? Targeted advertisement and free informed democracies don't mix well IMO.

ocdtrekkie 6y ago
Especially ironically, Facebook has been taking out newspaper ads to whine about how it needs targeted advertising to survive, and how mean Apple is harming them.