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Let's add this one to the list... https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405 https://www.jpost.c

Let's add this one to the list... https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-aliens-exist-humanity-not-ready-651405 https://www.jpost.com/omg/former-israeli-space-security-chie...

motoboi 6y ago
This one seems very odd. I don't know if you guys ever had a chance to hear the stories someone with severe mental illness can create. I had and they seem a lot with what this gentleman is saying. It's a blend of real and fantastic facts. They give those things names we already now. Think about it: why would a galactic spanning organisation be called "Galactic Federation"? Why not another name?
- jumby 6y ago
  Like: uuuurrrrloooop gleeeick flurrrumpa
  - JohnBooty 6y ago
    Any theoretical galaxy-scale organization welcoming us as a new member is certainly savvy enough to translate things into our language, right? The moment of first contact with a race of nuclear-armed savages is uh, pretty fraught, I'd imagine. If I was in charge of that alien delegation, you best believe I'd have a well-rehearsed slide deck translated into the humans' native dialect(s)! Sincerely, glrorpoepopo pvivinsinoborpo from gleebinimus alpha
    - jumby 6y ago
      Hi glrorpoepopo pvivinsinoborpo, Are the aliens using PowerPoint, now? Oh goodness, not sure I welcome our new galactic overlords.
      - JohnBooty 6y ago
        I can't say we enjoy PowerPoint either, but we watched you guys for quite a while and it seemed to be what you prefer!
      - p2t2p 6y ago
        "slide deck" seems Apple term, so I think they are more into Keynote
- TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
  A federation is a political entity characterized by a union of partially self-governing provinces, states, or other regions under a central federal government. A glactic federation is just one that spans the galaxy. It would make sense.
- JohnBooty 6y ago
  Not that I believe this Israeli guy in any way whatsoever, but: Think about it: why would a galactic spanning organisation be called "Galactic Federation"? Seems reasonable. Might even be the only reasonable part of the story! Imagine you were in charge of such a galaxy-spanning organization, encompassing multiple worlds, species, and cultures. Needless to say, communication in general and naming things in particular would be quite the challenge. Literal names and clarity are probably the primary things you want to really value there. Particularly if you're in charge of saying "hello" to a new species (humans, in this case) who are likely to find the experience a bit overwhelming. There's more than enough new information for them to absorb, right? Keep things as simple as possible. Yeah, "Galactic Federation" sounds about right.
  - motoboi 6y ago
    Yeah, but Galactic Federation is a sci-fi term. The aliens could call it Galactic Brains Network, or even Local Cluster Department of Thinking Devices. Or Very Massive Ensemble of Genetic Transport Devices. Or anything totally new, which could gives us a notion of a galactic point of view, non-human point of view, outside of earthly concepts. But anyways, I want to believe!
- gknoy 6y ago
  Perhaps that's merely _the closest translation_ into our language? :) I mean, if I were trying to translate the idea of a limited liability corporation into non-English, I'd probably come up with a phrasing that ended up being very similar (if not the same) to whatever they use in Dutch or Japanese or Chinese etc. If you had a multi-star-system government that wasn't an empire, it doesn't seem a stretch that you'd call it something similar to a 'federation'.
- Raphmedia 6y ago
  > why would a galactic spanning organisation be called "Galactic Federation"? We called the earth beneath our feet "Earth". Our moon "Moon", our star ("our sun" in common language) "Sun". Our military has a force that deals with flying in the air and we called it "Air Force". Our first space force is called "Space Force". Historically, one of the biggest companies that dealt with the east indian area was called "East India Company" despite being British. So, I'd answer back with "why not"?
  - Theory5 6y ago
    Our solar system is called Sol. "The Sol System". Our residence and office of the leader of our country is The White House. "Air Force" only sounds more normal than "Space Force" because most of us weren't around when it was the "US Army Air Corp". Admittedly they could've called it something slightly cooler based off other names, like the US Cyber Command.
- krapp 6y ago
  It's "Federation" due to pop-cultural osmosis from Star Trek. No other reason.
subsubzero 6y ago
I was going to but it seemed like it was based on one persons word, regardless of the person involved(high level military individual) for me its labelled folklore and not hard data. The other examples I listed all have paper trails with institutions that have rock solid credentials, in addition to the videos released by the pentagon(video evidence).
- deeeeplearning 6y ago
  In just the past few months there have been VIP assassinations/attempts on highly visible people (Lead Iranian Nuclear Scientist, Alexei Navalny, etc.) are we really expected to believe that intelligence agencies of the nations in question would let these kinds of secrets out in the open and not silence people if they were true? Apparently they are incredibly brazen so why are these people allowed to continue talking?
  - imperio59 6y ago
    I don't know, we've known Israel has had Nuclear weapons for decades but they still fail to officially acknowledge it. Plenty of people were saying the NSA was syphoning tons of US citizens' info but before Snowden offered proof they were just dismissed as conspiracy theorists and lunatics... Honestly killing or trying to silence people coming out about UFOs and alien races on earth might do more to legitimize their claims and if I was trying to keep this secret I would do my best to continue to let the public ridicule their claims and never do anything that might give some proof that I cared about their revelations. This is also not the first high-ranking government official to make such claims, see the ex-Canadian Defense minister who made very similar claims in 2015. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Governments-HIDING-aliens-claims-former-defence-minister-Paul-Hellyer-urges-world-leaders-reveal-secret-files.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Gove... It's at least mildly curious/interesting that the stories sound fairly similar to each other.
    - newsbinator 6y ago
      > “A third group are called 'Nordic Blondes' and Hellyer said that if you meet one you'd probably say, 'I wonder if she's from Denmark or somewhere.'”
puranjay 6y ago
I just want to point out to readers here that the gentleman quoted in this article is 87 years old. While I have no reason to think that this gentleman is being dishonest or exaggerating, I have been around family members the same age - 87 is prime age for picking up an assortment of mental issues.
swalsh 6y ago
I found a translation of the interview this article was derived from. It became clear to me that this was not an old man with inside information finally agreeing to disclose it (as is kind of implied by the headline) but rather, is just a normal guy who's read some stuff, and believes it. Very different thing.

motoboi 6y ago

This one seems very odd. I don't know if you guys ever had a chance to hear the stories someone with severe mental illness can create. I had and they seem a lot with what this gentleman is saying. It's a blend of real and fantastic facts. They give those things names we already now. Think about it: why would a galactic spanning organisation be called "Galactic Federation"? Why not another name?

jumby 6y ago
Like: uuuurrrrloooop gleeeick flurrrumpa
- JohnBooty 6y ago
  Any theoretical galaxy-scale organization welcoming us as a new member is certainly savvy enough to translate things into our language, right? The moment of first contact with a race of nuclear-armed savages is uh, pretty fraught, I'd imagine. If I was in charge of that alien delegation, you best believe I'd have a well-rehearsed slide deck translated into the humans' native dialect(s)! Sincerely, glrorpoepopo pvivinsinoborpo from gleebinimus alpha
  - jumby 6y ago
    Hi glrorpoepopo pvivinsinoborpo, Are the aliens using PowerPoint, now? Oh goodness, not sure I welcome our new galactic overlords.
    - JohnBooty 6y ago
      I can't say we enjoy PowerPoint either, but we watched you guys for quite a while and it seemed to be what you prefer!
    - p2t2p 6y ago
      "slide deck" seems Apple term, so I think they are more into Keynote
TheAdamAndChe 6y ago
A federation is a political entity characterized by a union of partially self-governing provinces, states, or other regions under a central federal government. A glactic federation is just one that spans the galaxy. It would make sense.
JohnBooty 6y ago
Not that I believe this Israeli guy in any way whatsoever, but: Think about it: why would a galactic spanning organisation be called "Galactic Federation"? Seems reasonable. Might even be the only reasonable part of the story! Imagine you were in charge of such a galaxy-spanning organization, encompassing multiple worlds, species, and cultures. Needless to say, communication in general and naming things in particular would be quite the challenge. Literal names and clarity are probably the primary things you want to really value there. Particularly if you're in charge of saying "hello" to a new species (humans, in this case) who are likely to find the experience a bit overwhelming. There's more than enough new information for them to absorb, right? Keep things as simple as possible. Yeah, "Galactic Federation" sounds about right.
- motoboi 6y ago
  Yeah, but Galactic Federation is a sci-fi term. The aliens could call it Galactic Brains Network, or even Local Cluster Department of Thinking Devices. Or Very Massive Ensemble of Genetic Transport Devices. Or anything totally new, which could gives us a notion of a galactic point of view, non-human point of view, outside of earthly concepts. But anyways, I want to believe!
gknoy 6y ago
Perhaps that's merely _the closest translation_ into our language? :) I mean, if I were trying to translate the idea of a limited liability corporation into non-English, I'd probably come up with a phrasing that ended up being very similar (if not the same) to whatever they use in Dutch or Japanese or Chinese etc. If you had a multi-star-system government that wasn't an empire, it doesn't seem a stretch that you'd call it something similar to a 'federation'.
Raphmedia 6y ago
> why would a galactic spanning organisation be called "Galactic Federation"? We called the earth beneath our feet "Earth". Our moon "Moon", our star ("our sun" in common language) "Sun". Our military has a force that deals with flying in the air and we called it "Air Force". Our first space force is called "Space Force". Historically, one of the biggest companies that dealt with the east indian area was called "East India Company" despite being British. So, I'd answer back with "why not"?
- Theory5 6y ago
  Our solar system is called Sol. "The Sol System". Our residence and office of the leader of our country is The White House. "Air Force" only sounds more normal than "Space Force" because most of us weren't around when it was the "US Army Air Corp". Admittedly they could've called it something slightly cooler based off other names, like the US Cyber Command.
krapp 6y ago
It's "Federation" due to pop-cultural osmosis from Star Trek. No other reason.

subsubzero 6y ago

I was going to but it seemed like it was based on one persons word, regardless of the person involved(high level military individual) for me its labelled folklore and not hard data. The other examples I listed all have paper trails with institutions that have rock solid credentials, in addition to the videos released by the pentagon(video evidence).

deeeeplearning 6y ago
In just the past few months there have been VIP assassinations/attempts on highly visible people (Lead Iranian Nuclear Scientist, Alexei Navalny, etc.) are we really expected to believe that intelligence agencies of the nations in question would let these kinds of secrets out in the open and not silence people if they were true? Apparently they are incredibly brazen so why are these people allowed to continue talking?
- imperio59 6y ago
  I don't know, we've known Israel has had Nuclear weapons for decades but they still fail to officially acknowledge it. Plenty of people were saying the NSA was syphoning tons of US citizens' info but before Snowden offered proof they were just dismissed as conspiracy theorists and lunatics... Honestly killing or trying to silence people coming out about UFOs and alien races on earth might do more to legitimize their claims and if I was trying to keep this secret I would do my best to continue to let the public ridicule their claims and never do anything that might give some proof that I cared about their revelations. This is also not the first high-ranking government official to make such claims, see the ex-Canadian Defense minister who made very similar claims in 2015. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Governments-HIDING-aliens-claims-former-defence-minister-Paul-Hellyer-urges-world-leaders-reveal-secret-files.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051151/Gove... It's at least mildly curious/interesting that the stories sound fairly similar to each other.
  - newsbinator 6y ago
    > “A third group are called 'Nordic Blondes' and Hellyer said that if you meet one you'd probably say, 'I wonder if she's from Denmark or somewhere.'”

puranjay 6y ago

I just want to point out to readers here that the gentleman quoted in this article is 87 years old. While I have no reason to think that this gentleman is being dishonest or exaggerating, I have been around family members the same age - 87 is prime age for picking up an assortment of mental issues.

swalsh 6y ago

I found a translation of the interview this article was derived from. It became clear to me that this was not an old man with inside information finally agreeing to disclose it (as is kind of implied by the headline) but rather, is just a normal guy who's read some stuff, and believes it. Very different thing.