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Google accused of search manipulation in third major antitrust lawsuit

40 points by daolf 6y ago

ksk 6y ago
>[..] But this lawsuit seeks to redesign Search in ways that would deprive Americans of helpful information and hurt businesses’ ability to connect directly with customers. [..] This is a bit funny given that Google's entire MO is to insert themselves between the business and customer so they can tax every transaction. You searched for "Big Bob's BBQ"? Surely that must mean that Google should get a cut out of the order! Whatever happened to simply organizing the worlds information? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/10/opinion/google-privacy-policy.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/10/opinion/googl...
realmod 6y ago
As a consumer, I can unequivocally say that I enjoy and prefer aggregation features and some OneBox features, I want the search to return an information-dense page with good summaries of, for example, Wikipedia articles and Oneboxes with the financial status of companies. I've read part of the complaint, and it is fairly persuasive, but I do feel like most of Google's actions that "reinforce" their monopoly are somewhat morally acceptable. Like Google requiring Android manufactures to use Chrome and its search engine as default or Google paying Apple to make its search engine the default in iOs. Google is spending most likely billions on developing and maintaining Android and thus deserve to impose some financially beneficial requirements. However, Google blanket banning manufacturers from forking Android instead of just prohibiting Android-forks from using "Google Play Services" is clearly anti-competitive and shady. Here is the PDF of the complaint https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20431671/colorado-v-google.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20431671/colorado...
- Technically 6y ago
  I'd like to go the opposite and strip the autoscraped boxes from search altogether. They're often distracting, barely related to the search query, and have blatantly incorrect or out of context data represented as a result. Meanwhile, the useful websites they scrape such as wikipedia and IMDB are slipping ever further behind commercial SEO fuckery. We're watching the slow death of a searchable internet.

40 points by daolf 6y ago

ksk 6y ago

>[..] But this lawsuit seeks to redesign Search in ways that would deprive Americans of helpful information and hurt businesses’ ability to connect directly with customers. [..] This is a bit funny given that Google's entire MO is to insert themselves between the business and customer so they can tax every transaction. You searched for "Big Bob's BBQ"? Surely that must mean that Google should get a cut out of the order! Whatever happened to simply organizing the worlds information? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/10/opinion/google-privacy-policy.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/10/opinion/googl...

realmod 6y ago

As a consumer, I can unequivocally say that I enjoy and prefer aggregation features and some OneBox features, I want the search to return an information-dense page with good summaries of, for example, Wikipedia articles and Oneboxes with the financial status of companies. I've read part of the complaint, and it is fairly persuasive, but I do feel like most of Google's actions that "reinforce" their monopoly are somewhat morally acceptable. Like Google requiring Android manufactures to use Chrome and its search engine as default or Google paying Apple to make its search engine the default in iOs. Google is spending most likely billions on developing and maintaining Android and thus deserve to impose some financially beneficial requirements. However, Google blanket banning manufacturers from forking Android instead of just prohibiting Android-forks from using "Google Play Services" is clearly anti-competitive and shady. Here is the PDF of the complaint https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20431671/colorado-v-google.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20431671/colorado...

Technically 6y ago
I'd like to go the opposite and strip the autoscraped boxes from search altogether. They're often distracting, barely related to the search query, and have blatantly incorrect or out of context data represented as a result. Meanwhile, the useful websites they scrape such as wikipedia and IMDB are slipping ever further behind commercial SEO fuckery. We're watching the slow death of a searchable internet.