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This is great. My experience is that many people claim to want analytics for their website but end up looking at it a couple of times and then never using it ag

This is great. My experience is that many people claim to want analytics for their website but end up looking at it a couple of times and then never using it again. Meanwhile they're sponsoring and bolstering the position of internet tracking giants who - despite their claims - have no regard for user privacy. Just sell your product instead of wasting time and money on bike shedding your website with whatever you believe is going to "skyrocket your sales".

Seirdy 6y ago
I'd go a step further, and say that most sites don't need cookies either. I wrote about it elsewhere a few days ago: > Avoid having to put annoying EU cookie consent dialogs on your website with one weird trick: > Don't use cookies on your website. > If you want users to be able to sign in to access your premium paywalled/onlyfans content, put that on a subdomain that has cookies and requires login. > (yes this isn't applicable to all websites with cookies; it's just a nice idea worth considering) => https://pleroma.envs.net/notice/A1sZxGnSQ2Oi0oWMy0 https://pleroma.envs.net/notice/A1sZxGnSQ2Oi0oWMy0 originally written here
- nicky0 6y ago
  You don't even need cookie consent warnings for login cookies. Just for "drive by" ones.
vidarh 6y ago
And when people want analytics they often just really want headline numbers that do not require user tracking. E.g. I've started using Fathom [1]. It's very basic, but for the sites I use it on all I really want to know is if traffic is going up or down or if any specific pages are suddenly getting lots of traffic. [1] https://usefathom.com https://usefathom.com
- markdown 6y ago
  No pricing page, and jesus, not even a menu. They want us to sign in before they'll show us pricing? fuck right off with that bullshit.
  - vidarh 6y ago
    The pricing page [1] is linked further down, and from the sitemap at the bottom of the page. You have a point they should have made it more obvious though. https://usefathom.com/pricing https://usefathom.com/pricing
    - markdown 6y ago
      Thanks. Looks like they're only targeting large websites. I've never build a 100k/month traffic website, just lots of (maybe 300+) mom and pop websites. Wish there was a $12/yr plan for websites that are lucky to get 500 visits a month.
      - vidarh 6y ago
        You can use one subscription for however many sites you want (well,they use a drop-down to select site, so might not scale to huge numbers), and the pageview count applies to the total, so if you're the one who need the stats for all the sites, it can still work quite well. But I agree, it'd be nice with a smaller option.
Slikey 6y ago
Sadly this is often unfeasible if your site relies on reCAPTCHA. Are there any cookie-free GDPR compliant captcha options?

Seirdy 6y ago

I'd go a step further, and say that most sites don't need cookies either. I wrote about it elsewhere a few days ago: > Avoid having to put annoying EU cookie consent dialogs on your website with one weird trick: > Don't use cookies on your website. > If you want users to be able to sign in to access your premium paywalled/onlyfans content, put that on a subdomain that has cookies and requires login. > (yes this isn't applicable to all websites with cookies; it's just a nice idea worth considering) => https://pleroma.envs.net/notice/A1sZxGnSQ2Oi0oWMy0 https://pleroma.envs.net/notice/A1sZxGnSQ2Oi0oWMy0 originally written here

nicky0 6y ago
You don't even need cookie consent warnings for login cookies. Just for "drive by" ones.

vidarh 6y ago

And when people want analytics they often just really want headline numbers that do not require user tracking. E.g. I've started using Fathom [1]. It's very basic, but for the sites I use it on all I really want to know is if traffic is going up or down or if any specific pages are suddenly getting lots of traffic. [1] https://usefathom.com https://usefathom.com

markdown 6y ago
No pricing page, and jesus, not even a menu. They want us to sign in before they'll show us pricing? fuck right off with that bullshit.
- vidarh 6y ago
  The pricing page [1] is linked further down, and from the sitemap at the bottom of the page. You have a point they should have made it more obvious though. https://usefathom.com/pricing https://usefathom.com/pricing
  - markdown 6y ago
    Thanks. Looks like they're only targeting large websites. I've never build a 100k/month traffic website, just lots of (maybe 300+) mom and pop websites. Wish there was a $12/yr plan for websites that are lucky to get 500 visits a month.
    - vidarh 6y ago
      You can use one subscription for however many sites you want (well,they use a drop-down to select site, so might not scale to huge numbers), and the pageview count applies to the total, so if you're the one who need the stats for all the sites, it can still work quite well. But I agree, it'd be nice with a smaller option.

Slikey 6y ago

Sadly this is often unfeasible if your site relies on reCAPTCHA. Are there any cookie-free GDPR compliant captcha options?