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Why are some of the faces of the thieves blurred but some aren't?

fransiscoli 6y ago
I was wondering that too..
rasz 6y ago
1.0 turned out to be Mark Rober paying his friends to arrange "theft". Make your own conclusions. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-glitter-bomb-video-featured-fake-thieves-creator-says/2389954002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-g...
- jazzsax 6y ago
  That's a pretty blatant mischaracterization. He paid his friends (&friends of friends) to host the package, to compensate them for having to bring it in every night, charge it, and replace it. Unbeknownst to him, a friend-of-a-friend faked some of the thefts - I think potentially for additional compensation, but I'm not sure if that was the right motive. I thought he handled it honestly and professionally - people noticed something off in the video, shared their data, he investigated, concluded what happened, edited the video to remove those thefts, and added an apology upfront. https://twitter.com/markrober/status/1075767629703372800?lang=en https://twitter.com/markrober/status/1075767629703372800?lan...
- ajford 6y ago
  I feel like characterizing it as Rober paying to arrange the theft is disingenuous. He stated that two of the five people he arranged to set out bait packages (and were compensated for setting out bait packages) had acquaintances "steal" them. He came out and revealed this, as well as cutting the questionable footage from his video. That seems to me like an honest mistake and not intentionally misleading.
  - searealist 6y ago
    That was just damage control when he got caught.
    - ajford 6y ago
      There's no proof for either the accusation that it was intentional or that it was an honest mistake. I agree to disagree. At this point, it's up to the reader to decide what they want to believe. Whether it's staged or not, the package (glitterbomb) itself is rather interesting from an engineering aspect, as are the rest of his videos. They are all entertaining and educational, so I'm rather ok with staged porch pirates purely on the entertainment value, and given what passes for "Reality TV" anymore, I'm willing to bet it's less scripted than most of that anyways.
      - searealist 6y ago
        If the reactions are fake why would you suspect that the engineering is anything other than smoke and mirrors as well?
        ajford 6y ago
        Because I've got enough experience in engineering, software, and electronics engineering that I can recognize what's possible. I've also seen his other videos and know him indirectly (a personal friend worked with him at NASA) and know he's competent.
        searealist 6y ago
        He didn't even make the thing. It was outsourced.
        ajford 6y ago
        Proof? Without something to back up your statement that he didn't make it, I'm gonna keep my own counsel on that. If your talking about the build quality, that's all possible at hobbyist levels of skill. And doubly so for someone who's a professional engineer. PCB design and fabrication like that is rather inexpensive now, and plenty of free & open source software is available to design board like that. I've done it in college, at a past employer, and for personal projects. The case? 3D printing has come a long way, and if you look closely, it's almost certainly printed given the visible layer lines. I don't know why you seemed determined to shoot down this video, but whatever. Perhaps you've been bit by a glitter bomb and are vehemently opposed to them. Anyways, I'm done with this discussion.
JosephRedfern 6y ago
Could it depend on the state where it was recorded? Do laws vary that way?
shaftway 6y ago
Age, most likely. He explicitly calls out one of the blurs as some teenagers. The rest look like they're younger from body shape too. All of the faces I saw were clearly over 18.
searealist 6y ago
It's all staged.

I was wondering that too..

rasz 6y ago

1.0 turned out to be Mark Rober paying his friends to arrange "theft". Make your own conclusions. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-glitter-bomb-video-featured-fake-thieves-creator-says/2389954002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/12/21/viral-g...

jazzsax 6y ago
That's a pretty blatant mischaracterization. He paid his friends (&friends of friends) to host the package, to compensate them for having to bring it in every night, charge it, and replace it. Unbeknownst to him, a friend-of-a-friend faked some of the thefts - I think potentially for additional compensation, but I'm not sure if that was the right motive. I thought he handled it honestly and professionally - people noticed something off in the video, shared their data, he investigated, concluded what happened, edited the video to remove those thefts, and added an apology upfront. https://twitter.com/markrober/status/1075767629703372800?lang=en https://twitter.com/markrober/status/1075767629703372800?lan...
ajford 6y ago
I feel like characterizing it as Rober paying to arrange the theft is disingenuous. He stated that two of the five people he arranged to set out bait packages (and were compensated for setting out bait packages) had acquaintances "steal" them. He came out and revealed this, as well as cutting the questionable footage from his video. That seems to me like an honest mistake and not intentionally misleading.
- searealist 6y ago
  That was just damage control when he got caught.
  - ajford 6y ago
    There's no proof for either the accusation that it was intentional or that it was an honest mistake. I agree to disagree. At this point, it's up to the reader to decide what they want to believe. Whether it's staged or not, the package (glitterbomb) itself is rather interesting from an engineering aspect, as are the rest of his videos. They are all entertaining and educational, so I'm rather ok with staged porch pirates purely on the entertainment value, and given what passes for "Reality TV" anymore, I'm willing to bet it's less scripted than most of that anyways.
    - searealist 6y ago
      If the reactions are fake why would you suspect that the engineering is anything other than smoke and mirrors as well?
      - ajford 6y ago
        Because I've got enough experience in engineering, software, and electronics engineering that I can recognize what's possible. I've also seen his other videos and know him indirectly (a personal friend worked with him at NASA) and know he's competent.
        searealist 6y ago
        He didn't even make the thing. It was outsourced.
        ajford 6y ago
        Proof? Without something to back up your statement that he didn't make it, I'm gonna keep my own counsel on that. If your talking about the build quality, that's all possible at hobbyist levels of skill. And doubly so for someone who's a professional engineer. PCB design and fabrication like that is rather inexpensive now, and plenty of free & open source software is available to design board like that. I've done it in college, at a past employer, and for personal projects. The case? 3D printing has come a long way, and if you look closely, it's almost certainly printed given the visible layer lines. I don't know why you seemed determined to shoot down this video, but whatever. Perhaps you've been bit by a glitter bomb and are vehemently opposed to them. Anyways, I'm done with this discussion.

JosephRedfern 6y ago

Could it depend on the state where it was recorded? Do laws vary that way?

shaftway 6y ago

Age, most likely. He explicitly calls out one of the blurs as some teenagers. The rest look like they're younger from body shape too. All of the faces I saw were clearly over 18.

searealist 6y ago

It's all staged.