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Von Braun Station is a technical type/design, not the project's own name. Using designers' names normal with space designs.
by emteycz 6y ago
Von Braun Station is a technical type/design, not the project's own name. Using designers' names normal with space designs.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoLots of better names are available: "Originally proposed by Konstantin Tsiolkovsky in 1903, the idea was expanded by Herman Potočnik in 1929."
- rbanffy 6y agoIt's telling that between a nazi and a communist, some people would choose the nazi.
- gnarbarian 6y agoTake your pick based on if you are more comfortable with mass killings based on political affiliation or race.
- rbanffy 6y agoI prefer people who don't employ genocide victims as slaves for building weapons of mass destruction, but that's me.
- gnarbarian 6y agoIf that's your actual beef, Forced Labor Camps/ Gulags were far more heavily used by the Soviet Union than by the Nazis. They were also used to produce weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#Economic_role https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#Economic_role
- rsynnott 6y ago“Far more heavily used” is incorrect (particularly in Tsiolkovsky‘s time; they became a big deal a bit later), but yes, the gulags existed. Tsiolkovsky wasn’t personally involved with them, though (he was a maths teacher).
- avmich 6y agoAccording to Chertok, GULAG workforce wasn't used at least when Baykonur, a significant project, was being built. It was direct involvement of Army corps used there. Imprisoned labor force was used in WWII time Soviet aviation and rocketry development (Tupolev, Glushko, Korolyov). Other large projects were possibly too technical, challenging to employ forced labor?..
- elil17 6y agoSorry to be a little pedantic but genocide specifically means mass killing based on race, ethnicity, or nationality. The word was coined in response to the Nazi Holocaust because the systemtimatic, ethnically motivated killings were considered to be so abhorrent. There’s no such thing as genocide based on political affiliation.
- gnarbarian 6y agoA fair point but not an undisputed one. https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23/naimark-stalin-genocide-092310/ https://news.stanford.edu/2010/09/23/naimark-stalin-genocide... "All early drafts of the U.N. genocide convention included social and political groups in its definition. But one hand that wasn’t in the room guided the pen. The Soviet delegation vetoed any definition of genocide that might include the actions of its leader, Joseph Stalin. The Allies, exhausted by war, were loyal to their Soviet allies – to the detriment of subsequent generations. Naimark argues that that the narrow definition of genocide is the dictator’s unacknowledged legacy to us today."
- rsynnott 6y agoTsiolkovsky lived in the Soviet Union, where he worked as a maths teacher. Von Braun was a member of the Nazi party and SS who made weapons with an enormous slave labour force; by some estimates more people died making the things than were killed by them. Personally, I’d probably go for the maths teacher, when it comes to naming stuff.
- perennate 6y agoWhy quote that when the Wikipedia article that it's from is titled "rotating wheel space station"? Rotating wheel is more descriptive than Von Braun or Tsiolkovsky or Potočnik.
- emteycz 6y agoThere are many kinds of rotating wheel space stations with differences in layout, size, complexity, etc.