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That's not the only choice. Focusing protection on the vulnerable while allowing the rest of society to function could've spared us both from the worst of the p

That's not the only choice. Focusing protection on the vulnerable while allowing the rest of society to function could've spared us both from the worst of the pandemic's destruction and the economic destruction -- "economic" is a bit of a misnomer too. There is a greater cost to lockdowns than just economics. Mental and physical health also suffer. Those that can't get preventative care they need suffer. Depressed people and those with anxiety who turn to drugs, alcohol and suicide suffer.

ardy42 6y ago
> That's not the only choice. Focusing protection on the vulnerable while allowing the rest of society to function could've spared us both from the worst of the pandemic's destruction and the economic destruction -- That's an unrealistic idea. You can't have unchecked community spread and "focus protection on the vulnerable," without literally imprisoning them in an isolation bubble for a year or more, which is far longer than the successful lockdowns have lasted. There are places in the world that have already opened up, virus free. The rule with this pandemic seems to be: the more half-ass you are at controlling it, the more pain and expense you get. > "economic" is a bit of a misnomer too. There is a greater cost to lockdowns than just economics. Mental and physical health also suffer. Those that can't get preventative care they need suffer. Depressed people and those with anxiety who turn to drugs, alcohol and suicide suffer. If you really cared so much about people's "mental and physical health," why are you advocating a policy that wouldn't lessen it, but rather concentrate the damage and increase the burden to on the vulnerable?
- thebean11 6y ago
  I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. The idea that you just throw away all precautions "except for the vulnerable" is complete nonsense as you pointed out. Every healthy person who has the virus is a danger for the vulnerable.
  - ardy42 6y ago
    > I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I'm sure why. There's a lot of people who've committed themselves to false/wrong/wishful thinking ideas about COVID (the US, to its embarrassment, has a major political faction that's done this). Since those ideas are indefensible, people who point out the flaws are often downvoted.
- NicoJuicy 6y ago
  > There are places in the world that have already opened up, virus free. And every place that qualifies for your description is an island on its own.

ardy42 6y ago

> That's not the only choice. Focusing protection on the vulnerable while allowing the rest of society to function could've spared us both from the worst of the pandemic's destruction and the economic destruction -- That's an unrealistic idea. You can't have unchecked community spread and "focus protection on the vulnerable," without literally imprisoning them in an isolation bubble for a year or more, which is far longer than the successful lockdowns have lasted. There are places in the world that have already opened up, virus free. The rule with this pandemic seems to be: the more half-ass you are at controlling it, the more pain and expense you get. > "economic" is a bit of a misnomer too. There is a greater cost to lockdowns than just economics. Mental and physical health also suffer. Those that can't get preventative care they need suffer. Depressed people and those with anxiety who turn to drugs, alcohol and suicide suffer. If you really cared so much about people's "mental and physical health," why are you advocating a policy that wouldn't lessen it, but rather concentrate the damage and increase the burden to on the vulnerable?

thebean11 6y ago
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. The idea that you just throw away all precautions "except for the vulnerable" is complete nonsense as you pointed out. Every healthy person who has the virus is a danger for the vulnerable.
- ardy42 6y ago
  > I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I'm sure why. There's a lot of people who've committed themselves to false/wrong/wishful thinking ideas about COVID (the US, to its embarrassment, has a major political faction that's done this). Since those ideas are indefensible, people who point out the flaws are often downvoted.
NicoJuicy 6y ago
> There are places in the world that have already opened up, virus free. And every place that qualifies for your description is an island on its own.