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Been at FB two years, joined after my wife had been there 1.5 years. There are tons of people who join bc of significant others or friends, it’s a good place to

Been at FB two years, joined after my wife had been there 1.5 years. There are tons of people who join bc of significant others or friends, it’s a good place to work. * $$$ - There are only a few companies at that level of total comp. FB stock has climbed a lot in the last two years. * Benefits - if you’re starting a family, FB gives the most leave of any big tech. I’m a dad and currently taking my 4 month fully paid paternity leave, after already taking 10 weeks paid COVID leave this year to take care of my two year old. We’ll be getting 10 more weeks of COVID leave for H1 2021 also. * Culture - say what you will about the FAANG interview culture, but top tier companies have really good people and high standards. I’ve gotten pushed more in the last two years than any job before that. If you’re a high performer, the ceiling is insanely high, both in comp and responsibility. * FB has tons of projects that have nothing to do with the things HN hates about FB. There is a massive chunk of the company working on awesome products that get used by billions of people. * (flame war incoming) Not everyone agrees with the HN stance that selling ads based on user data is fundamentally evil. * FB has done sketchy things in the past, but there’s so much government regulation and increased scrutiny, none of that would fly in 2020.

matlag 6y ago
> FB has done sketchy things in the past, but there’s so much government regulation and increased scrutiny, none of that would fly in 2020. You really believe that? Because FB was caught in scandals after scandals, and never seemed to change its approach on any issue. At this stage, it's not "some sketchy things", it's a mindset at top level. Don't get me wrong: If we were scrutinizing all large corporate the way FB is, and ask people to quit if we found anything ethically questionable, there would be no large corporate and probably a high unemployment rate. But let's keep in mind how FB "behaves" -Cambridge analytica -Selling users pivate messages to third party with a highly questionable excuse of users consenting -Threatening to leave Europe or Australia if they pass regulations FB doesn't like And what fundamental changes were made at top management to give the company a radical different orientation preventing more scandals in the future: - But my final point will be: all of these were well reported and described in details. FB users cannot say "we didn't know" in good faith. Fool me once: shame on you. Fool me twice: shame on me. Users have the absolute right to not give a damn, and FB has the absolute right to test the limits of acceptance. We're not talking about a charity organization here.
- seba_dos1 6y ago
  > At this stage, it's not "some sketchy things", it's a mindset at top level. Of course working there requires sharing (or having rationalized) at least some part of that mindset.

matlag 6y ago

> FB has done sketchy things in the past, but there’s so much government regulation and increased scrutiny, none of that would fly in 2020. You really believe that? Because FB was caught in scandals after scandals, and never seemed to change its approach on any issue. At this stage, it's not "some sketchy things", it's a mindset at top level. Don't get me wrong: If we were scrutinizing all large corporate the way FB is, and ask people to quit if we found anything ethically questionable, there would be no large corporate and probably a high unemployment rate. But let's keep in mind how FB "behaves" -Cambridge analytica -Selling users pivate messages to third party with a highly questionable excuse of users consenting -Threatening to leave Europe or Australia if they pass regulations FB doesn't like And what fundamental changes were made at top management to give the company a radical different orientation preventing more scandals in the future: - But my final point will be: all of these were well reported and described in details. FB users cannot say "we didn't know" in good faith. Fool me once: shame on you. Fool me twice: shame on me. Users have the absolute right to not give a damn, and FB has the absolute right to test the limits of acceptance. We're not talking about a charity organization here.

seba_dos1 6y ago
> At this stage, it's not "some sketchy things", it's a mindset at top level. Of course working there requires sharing (or having rationalized) at least some part of that mindset.