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I'm not quite sure what "more environmentally friendly" means in this context (CO2?), but the plastic bag ban is explicitly made to reduce plastic waste and mic

by dtech 6y ago

I'm not quite sure what "more environmentally friendly" means in this context (CO2?), but the plastic bag ban is explicitly made to reduce plastic waste and micro-plastics, not for other environmental factors.

derekp7 6y ago
Reminds me of a study showing that a reusable coffee mug wastes not water (from washing) than a styrofoam cups.
- mrpopo 6y ago
  Yes, and water waste from reusable coffe mugs is not an issue. Styrofoam in oceans is an issue.
  - thebean11 6y ago
    So then the comparison between mugs and bags doesn't make much sense, because unlike water waste carbon emissions are an issue.
    - mrpopo 6y ago
      Carbon emissions from manufacturing plastic bags isn't really an issue either. The content of the bag will usually have a much higher carbon footprint (and if it doesn't, probably you wouldn't need a bag for it). If that is the price to pay to reduce plastic pollution it's a fair trade off.
  - SifJar 6y ago
    > water waste ... is not an issue Except in the times & places that it is (i.e. times/places with water shortages)
    - Cthulhu_ 6y ago
      While it is an issue, I'm afraid it'll be one that will encourage capitalism to pounce on it. There is plenty of water, it's just that it becomes more expensive if there is a shortage, compared to e.g. just pumping it up from the aquifer.
  - gruez 6y ago
    >Styrofoam in oceans is an issue. The average styrofoam cup used at a cafe or event isn't going to end up in the ocean, unless the cafe/event is next to the ocean.
    - Hahhaa 6y ago
      There are other way for styrofoam cup to pollute ocean. Plastic disposal or recycling method used to (maybe still are) simply exported to or become a landfill. It will eventually degraded to micro-plastic, which follow water-flow and end up in ocean.
      - gruez 6y ago
        Landfills in the US are lined. It's not getting out.
RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
But the most critical thing right now is CO2 reduction. I think that anything that causes a net increase in CO2 production can be labeled as environmentally friendly. It’s all hands on deck. If we can’t get our CO2 under control, this just becomes rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

by dtech 6y ago

derekp7 6y ago

Reminds me of a study showing that a reusable coffee mug wastes not water (from washing) than a styrofoam cups.

mrpopo 6y ago
Yes, and water waste from reusable coffe mugs is not an issue. Styrofoam in oceans is an issue.
- thebean11 6y ago
  So then the comparison between mugs and bags doesn't make much sense, because unlike water waste carbon emissions are an issue.
  - mrpopo 6y ago
    Carbon emissions from manufacturing plastic bags isn't really an issue either. The content of the bag will usually have a much higher carbon footprint (and if it doesn't, probably you wouldn't need a bag for it). If that is the price to pay to reduce plastic pollution it's a fair trade off.
- SifJar 6y ago
  > water waste ... is not an issue Except in the times & places that it is (i.e. times/places with water shortages)
  - Cthulhu_ 6y ago
    While it is an issue, I'm afraid it'll be one that will encourage capitalism to pounce on it. There is plenty of water, it's just that it becomes more expensive if there is a shortage, compared to e.g. just pumping it up from the aquifer.
- gruez 6y ago
  >Styrofoam in oceans is an issue. The average styrofoam cup used at a cafe or event isn't going to end up in the ocean, unless the cafe/event is next to the ocean.
  - Hahhaa 6y ago
    There are other way for styrofoam cup to pollute ocean. Plastic disposal or recycling method used to (maybe still are) simply exported to or become a landfill. It will eventually degraded to micro-plastic, which follow water-flow and end up in ocean.
    - gruez 6y ago
      Landfills in the US are lined. It's not getting out.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago

But the most critical thing right now is CO2 reduction. I think that anything that causes a net increase in CO2 production can be labeled as environmentally friendly. It’s all hands on deck. If we can’t get our CO2 under control, this just becomes rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic