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> Personally I'd welcome some sort of intervention by one of the three-letter agencies - this time it could be actually for a good cause. Yes, because those th

> Personally I'd welcome some sort of intervention by one of the three-letter agencies - this time it could be actually for a good cause. Yes, because those three-letter agencies have a fantastic track record in South America. [/s] That would be a fine way to make things exponentially worse.

mschuster91 6y ago
> That would be a fine way to make things exponentially worse. Things are FUBAR already. It can't get that much worse: entire countries are effectively run by drug empires, others are falling apart due to uncontrolled, rampant violence (often enough caused by criminals the US deported in the first place), and Bolsonaro is selling out the future of humanity. I agree that the anti-communist interventions of the past were a catastrophe - but looking away now and leaving the poor and nature to pay the price for past misdeeds is not an option. The US needs to legalize drugs to drain the cartels of their funding source, support the local legitimate governments that are fighting against cartel and gang violence - and ensure that the Amazon rain forest is not burned down any more.
- rmsaksida 6y ago
  They can get much, much worse. Unimaginably worse. There's no comparison between Venezuela and Brazil, for example. But even between Bolivia and Brazil or Peru and Brazil there's a steep difference in development and living standards. Foreign intervention would destabilize the country and potentially lead to war, human suffering, and devastation. > entire countries are effectively run by drug empires This is not true. > Bolsonaro is selling out the future of humanity I'm not even sure what you mean here, but it sounds inaccurate and an exaggeration at the very least. Brazil is going through a bad patch, for sure. But it's still the biggest, most dynamic economy in South America, a stable democracy with relatively high HDI, and a nation of proud people with vibrant history and culture. The idea of foreign intervention sends shivers down my spine - it would absolutely, with 100% certainty make things worse, and would be potentially catastrophic for the country. I find it really amazing that someone can casually suggest this. Hasn't South America suffered enough?
- pelasaco 6y ago
  Bolsonaro was elected in 2019, the problem in Amazon forest started in the 70s. Check the "Loss Rates" and draw your own conclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_of_the_Amazon_rainforest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_of_the_Amazon_ra...

mschuster91 6y ago

> That would be a fine way to make things exponentially worse. Things are FUBAR already. It can't get that much worse: entire countries are effectively run by drug empires, others are falling apart due to uncontrolled, rampant violence (often enough caused by criminals the US deported in the first place), and Bolsonaro is selling out the future of humanity. I agree that the anti-communist interventions of the past were a catastrophe - but looking away now and leaving the poor and nature to pay the price for past misdeeds is not an option. The US needs to legalize drugs to drain the cartels of their funding source, support the local legitimate governments that are fighting against cartel and gang violence - and ensure that the Amazon rain forest is not burned down any more.

rmsaksida 6y ago
They can get much, much worse. Unimaginably worse. There's no comparison between Venezuela and Brazil, for example. But even between Bolivia and Brazil or Peru and Brazil there's a steep difference in development and living standards. Foreign intervention would destabilize the country and potentially lead to war, human suffering, and devastation. > entire countries are effectively run by drug empires This is not true. > Bolsonaro is selling out the future of humanity I'm not even sure what you mean here, but it sounds inaccurate and an exaggeration at the very least. Brazil is going through a bad patch, for sure. But it's still the biggest, most dynamic economy in South America, a stable democracy with relatively high HDI, and a nation of proud people with vibrant history and culture. The idea of foreign intervention sends shivers down my spine - it would absolutely, with 100% certainty make things worse, and would be potentially catastrophic for the country. I find it really amazing that someone can casually suggest this. Hasn't South America suffered enough?
pelasaco 6y ago
Bolsonaro was elected in 2019, the problem in Amazon forest started in the 70s. Check the "Loss Rates" and draw your own conclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_of_the_Amazon_rainforest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_of_the_Amazon_ra...