> you are being manipulated to not think This is where it crosses from insightful into conspiracy theory territory for me. People seem perfectly capable of gro

> you are being manipulated to not think This is where it crosses from insightful into conspiracy theory territory for me. People seem perfectly capable of groupthink-deluding themselves. Why cheapen your argument by postulating some master manipulator when it's not necessary for the deeper point you're making? It will only lead to people focussing the discussion to challenge this particular aspect, or them disregarding all you've said, instead of engaging with the actual meat of the argument.