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Please do not generalise the "we". The yellow vests definitely did not trust their government and took it to the streets. If one doesn't trust a corporation the

by petre 6y ago

Please do not generalise the "we". The yellow vests definitely did not trust their government and took it to the streets. If one doesn't trust a corporation they should not work for/with them.

znpy 6y ago
Ah, the "don't work for them" motto. I 100% agree but quite frankly i'm starting to feel like I'm missing out. A lot of FAANG people are going to agree with most left-wing arguments but they won't renounce their fat paychecks. Their argument is usually "if I'm not working for a FAANG company somebody else will do anyway" which looks quite shallow to me. So in the meantime they get to look cool and forward-looking, actually contribute to the growth of many problems, and bring home a fat paycheck.
Tainnor 6y ago
In every generalisation, you're obviously going to miss some nuance. French people have a long history of revolting against the political establishment, dating back to at least the French revolution, that makes them somewhat different than, say, Germany, where I live. So this is a fair point. On the other hand, I would still think that throughout most of French history, and also now with the yellow vests, people rarely went to the streets to protest for "less regulation", and especially not in order to advocate for the interests of big corporations over those of the state. Yes, there was (is?) a French brand of anarchism, but that was always more of a "property is theft" kind of anarchism, and not a US-style libertarian anarcho-capitalism. So, I think what I rather meant to say is the following: Most people in Europe trust the idea of a powerful government (even if they violently disagree with its current incarnation) much more than the idea of equally powerful private corporations.
- petre 6y ago
  France is already over regulated. The yellow vests went to the streets to protest against reforms taxing fuel to somehow offset for climate change, then grew into an anti establishment movement. Yes, it's true, we'd rather have a big government that runs the show than big corps (from overseas). In fact Facebook threatened to leave the EU over a ban of sharing data with the US. I shall toast to the EU if this ever happens. https://www.vice.com/en/article/889pk3/facebook-threatens-to-pull-out-of-europe-if-it-doesnt-get-its-way https://www.vice.com/en/article/889pk3/facebook-threatens-to...

by petre 6y ago

Please do not generalise the "we". The yellow vests definitely did not trust their government and took it to the streets. If one doesn't trust a corporation they should not work for/with them.

znpy 6y ago

Ah, the "don't work for them" motto. I 100% agree but quite frankly i'm starting to feel like I'm missing out. A lot of FAANG people are going to agree with most left-wing arguments but they won't renounce their fat paychecks. Their argument is usually "if I'm not working for a FAANG company somebody else will do anyway" which looks quite shallow to me. So in the meantime they get to look cool and forward-looking, actually contribute to the growth of many problems, and bring home a fat paycheck.

Tainnor 6y ago

In every generalisation, you're obviously going to miss some nuance. French people have a long history of revolting against the political establishment, dating back to at least the French revolution, that makes them somewhat different than, say, Germany, where I live. So this is a fair point. On the other hand, I would still think that throughout most of French history, and also now with the yellow vests, people rarely went to the streets to protest for "less regulation", and especially not in order to advocate for the interests of big corporations over those of the state. Yes, there was (is?) a French brand of anarchism, but that was always more of a "property is theft" kind of anarchism, and not a US-style libertarian anarcho-capitalism. So, I think what I rather meant to say is the following: Most people in Europe trust the idea of a powerful government (even if they violently disagree with its current incarnation) much more than the idea of equally powerful private corporations.

petre 6y ago
France is already over regulated. The yellow vests went to the streets to protest against reforms taxing fuel to somehow offset for climate change, then grew into an anti establishment movement. Yes, it's true, we'd rather have a big government that runs the show than big corps (from overseas). In fact Facebook threatened to leave the EU over a ban of sharing data with the US. I shall toast to the EU if this ever happens. https://www.vice.com/en/article/889pk3/facebook-threatens-to-pull-out-of-europe-if-it-doesnt-get-its-way https://www.vice.com/en/article/889pk3/facebook-threatens-to...