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> Having played cyberpunk on PC it's mostly a fancy light show and not a lot of substance. That really depends on individual expectations. With many people tre

> Having played cyberpunk on PC it's mostly a fancy light show and not a lot of substance. That really depends on individual expectations. With many people treating the game like the second coming of gaming Jesus a lot of the disappointment was pretty much guaranteed. Personally I didn't expect anything like that, I was hoping for an open world Deus Ex like, with a more "colorful" setting, and that's pretty much what I got. > not to mention this game is very badly optimized on AMD systems the current gaming king. AMD has been the "current gaming king" only since Zen 3 desktop release, which happened just last month, most of these CPUs are still completely impossible to buy at actual MSRP. Regardless of that even Zen 2 is mostly performing very well with the game [0], which the HEXedit fix will only improve once it's patched in officially. In that context this complaint sounds very much like still complaining about the lack of an epilepsy warning; Sure it's not great to overlook something like that, but it's inane to act as if these are unfixable and nonredeemable issues, particularly in an industry where "games a service", releasing early access products, has become the new low-key norm even for much bigger publishers. [0] https://youtu.be/-pRI7vXh0JU https://youtu.be/-pRI7vXh0JU

SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
AMD has been very popular in gaming PCs for the last 3 years now. The Zen 2 release offered 99% of the gaming performance of an intel chip at a fraction of the cost and it completely blows away intel in non gaming workloads so its what most people picked unless spending an extra $300 for 2fps is your thing.
- freeflight 6y ago
  > The Zen 2 release offered 99% of the gaming performance of an intel chip Zen 2 is a good deal for it's overall versatility and particularly the amount of physical cores one gets for the amount of money paid. But gaming wise Zen 2 struggles to keep pace with any Intel CPU above the 10600k, particularly when the Intel's are overclocked, where they have much more headroom than both Zen 2 or Zen 3. Meaning that anybody who wanted maximum gaming performance, above all else, had pretty much no other choice except for Intel, that only changed with Zen 3, last month. Now with Zen 3 AMD has the "crown" in both gaming and productivity with CPUs like the 5900x, but that comes at the cost of a price premium as Zen 3 is not nearly as generously priced as Zen 2.
  - canofbars 6y ago
    >anybody who wanted maximum gaming performance, above all else, had pretty much no other choice except for Intel Which means nothing for the vast majority of users since the cpu was far from holding them back which is why we have seen most pc builds include an AMD cpu for the last few years because very few people want to pay way more to get a slightly higher number in a specific benchmark and see nothing in reality for the money.
    - freeflight 6y ago
      > since the cpu was far from holding them back A common misconception, but in reality the CPU actually is very responsible for min frames and thus pushing up the average frames, preventing frames from skipping. That becomes particularly important in demanding scenarios like PCVR and generally running high-resolutions with high-refresh rates. > which is why we have seen most pc builds include an AMD cpu for the last few years We've seen that because they offer excellent price and performance ratio, but that didn't make them the "gaming king", it made them them "budget all-rounder king", which is not the same.

SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago

AMD has been very popular in gaming PCs for the last 3 years now. The Zen 2 release offered 99% of the gaming performance of an intel chip at a fraction of the cost and it completely blows away intel in non gaming workloads so its what most people picked unless spending an extra $300 for 2fps is your thing.

freeflight 6y ago
> The Zen 2 release offered 99% of the gaming performance of an intel chip Zen 2 is a good deal for it's overall versatility and particularly the amount of physical cores one gets for the amount of money paid. But gaming wise Zen 2 struggles to keep pace with any Intel CPU above the 10600k, particularly when the Intel's are overclocked, where they have much more headroom than both Zen 2 or Zen 3. Meaning that anybody who wanted maximum gaming performance, above all else, had pretty much no other choice except for Intel, that only changed with Zen 3, last month. Now with Zen 3 AMD has the "crown" in both gaming and productivity with CPUs like the 5900x, but that comes at the cost of a price premium as Zen 3 is not nearly as generously priced as Zen 2.
- canofbars 6y ago
  >anybody who wanted maximum gaming performance, above all else, had pretty much no other choice except for Intel Which means nothing for the vast majority of users since the cpu was far from holding them back which is why we have seen most pc builds include an AMD cpu for the last few years because very few people want to pay way more to get a slightly higher number in a specific benchmark and see nothing in reality for the money.
  - freeflight 6y ago
    > since the cpu was far from holding them back A common misconception, but in reality the CPU actually is very responsible for min frames and thus pushing up the average frames, preventing frames from skipping. That becomes particularly important in demanding scenarios like PCVR and generally running high-resolutions with high-refresh rates. > which is why we have seen most pc builds include an AMD cpu for the last few years We've seen that because they offer excellent price and performance ratio, but that didn't make them the "gaming king", it made them them "budget all-rounder king", which is not the same.