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> having something to do with child porn, not due to legal liability I am sorry but how are you not understanding that this is one and the same????? If it wer

> having something to do with child porn, not due to legal liability I am sorry but how are you not understanding that this is one and the same????? If it were proven in a court of law that - your associate’s business knowingly trafficked in child pornography - you had reason to believe they were complicit in child pornography - you continued working with that business anyway then that exposes you to severe criminal liability, the kind that sends you to jail even if you’re a Vice President at VISA. And it should! Child pornography is a heinous crime that goes unpunished far too often. “Gee officer, I’m just a humble MasterCard corporate lawyer, how was I supposed to know?” is a ridiculous excuse.

Mirioron 6y ago
If the water/power company thinks that you are committing a heinous crime are they obligated to shut off your power and water? The same question regarding phone providers, ISPs, grocery stores etc. Payment processors are pretty near a utility at this point. Without access to them it's very hard to do a lot of things in the modern world. They certainly seem more essential than phone and internet service.
anm89 6y ago
Key word knowing. I don't think they knowingly did that. It's not like 1 video gets uploaded an hour and they sit around an watch it. That's like saying we should boycott the telephone company because a child molester made a phone call. If there is evidence that they were aware of child pornography on their platform and did nothing about it that would be different .
- ojnabieoot 6y ago
  I don’t think that word is as “key” as you are saying it is! It is profoundly irresponsible to presume ignorance and wait for there to be hard evidence. There is hard evidence that PornHub has repeatedly allowed underage pornography on their website despite significant public criticism, and hard evidence that PornHub (and therefore VISA and MasterCard) profited from its distribution. Moral and legal propriety compels action without giving PornHub executives a benefit of the doubt they do not deserve. It is also not like these issues are new. Pornhub has been criticized for allowing underage pornography since at least 2009, when footage of men raping a 14-year-old girl was uploaded to the site and not removed for 6 months, despite the videos racking up hundreds of thousands of views and the girl’s family repeatedly pleading with PornHub to remove the video. This has been a known problem with PornHub for over a decade. Even if the executives are just profoundly ignorant and bad at their jobs, that is not a good enough excuse in a court of law. > That's like saying we should boycott the telephone company because a child molester made a phone call. It is really more like saying that we should boycott the phone company because the child molester ran a nationwide criminal conspiracy around sexual assault using a premium phone service, and the phone company did nothing despite the problem being repeatedly brought to their attention. In which case: yes, boycott the damn phone company and demand a criminal investigation of its executives. A big part of the problem is people completely trivializing the issue. The EFF doesn’t even mention child exploitation! Pretending this is just about censoring legal pornography, or blowing small instances out of proportion, is completely dishonest and morally despicable.

Mirioron 6y ago

If the water/power company thinks that you are committing a heinous crime are they obligated to shut off your power and water? The same question regarding phone providers, ISPs, grocery stores etc. Payment processors are pretty near a utility at this point. Without access to them it's very hard to do a lot of things in the modern world. They certainly seem more essential than phone and internet service.

anm89 6y ago

Key word knowing. I don't think they knowingly did that. It's not like 1 video gets uploaded an hour and they sit around an watch it. That's like saying we should boycott the telephone company because a child molester made a phone call. If there is evidence that they were aware of child pornography on their platform and did nothing about it that would be different .

ojnabieoot 6y ago
I don’t think that word is as “key” as you are saying it is! It is profoundly irresponsible to presume ignorance and wait for there to be hard evidence. There is hard evidence that PornHub has repeatedly allowed underage pornography on their website despite significant public criticism, and hard evidence that PornHub (and therefore VISA and MasterCard) profited from its distribution. Moral and legal propriety compels action without giving PornHub executives a benefit of the doubt they do not deserve. It is also not like these issues are new. Pornhub has been criticized for allowing underage pornography since at least 2009, when footage of men raping a 14-year-old girl was uploaded to the site and not removed for 6 months, despite the videos racking up hundreds of thousands of views and the girl’s family repeatedly pleading with PornHub to remove the video. This has been a known problem with PornHub for over a decade. Even if the executives are just profoundly ignorant and bad at their jobs, that is not a good enough excuse in a court of law. > That's like saying we should boycott the telephone company because a child molester made a phone call. It is really more like saying that we should boycott the phone company because the child molester ran a nationwide criminal conspiracy around sexual assault using a premium phone service, and the phone company did nothing despite the problem being repeatedly brought to their attention. In which case: yes, boycott the damn phone company and demand a criminal investigation of its executives. A big part of the problem is people completely trivializing the issue. The EFF doesn’t even mention child exploitation! Pretending this is just about censoring legal pornography, or blowing small instances out of proportion, is completely dishonest and morally despicable.