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You might be able to run your doodad off of the thermostat wiring. I think there is 24v ac power?

IgorPartola 6y ago
Trouble with it is that they often times don’t include a ground wire. All the thermostat does is connect the power wire to the given function wire (like “fan on” or “heat pump 1 on”. I am not an expert but having installed a number of thermostats in a number of homes, all the manuals talk about the ground wire being rare and I have never seen one. If you are lucky you might have an unused wire that you can find a ground for, but I have only seen that once. Somehow when houses are wired it seems the HVAC people are very efficient with using the exact right number of wires in a single cable.
- craz8 6y ago
  Commercial solutions have a rechargeable battery and cycle one of the circuits occasionally to get power to recharge This can cause trouble Ecobee (probably others) provides a Doo-dad that wites into the furnace to help make this work
- kube-system 6y ago
  You can always run a new one. I bought new wire at Home Depot, tied it to the old cable, and pulled it down to the basement.
  - gww 6y ago
    That only works if they didn't staple it to the wall or bury it in spray-foam insulation. I ended up having to run a new one but was lucky that the floor-board was under the garage. I ran a piece of cat5e as well in case there is ever an option to get a thermostat that can use it.
  - IgorPartola 6y ago
    I have yet to see the wires that aren’t staples to the inside of walls. If it’s an option, great but IME it’s rarely an option.
    - kube-system 6y ago
      High voltage wiring has to be secured, by code, but low voltage thermostat wires don’t, so it’s more likely that you can pull them.
      - IgorPartola 6y ago
        Ok but if the roughly 15 thermostats I have replaced in 8 buildings it has always been secured.
- maksum 6y ago
  I wasn't a fan of messing with the thermostat housing but just now after pulling it off, I think my thermostat isn't anything fancy like that, just two black load and two red line wires. It's also important to note that my thermostat connects to baseboard heaters, not an HVAC system.
  - IgorPartola 6y ago
    Even ones connected to fancy heating and cooling systems aren’t that complex and instructions are usually spot on. A simple heating system like you describe is, well, simple. Connect wires, get heat. I’m sure you can figure it out.

Trouble with it is that they often times don’t include a ground wire. All the thermostat does is connect the power wire to the given function wire (like “fan on” or “heat pump 1 on”. I am not an expert but having installed a number of thermostats in a number of homes, all the manuals talk about the ground wire being rare and I have never seen one. If you are lucky you might have an unused wire that you can find a ground for, but I have only seen that once. Somehow when houses are wired it seems the HVAC people are very efficient with using the exact right number of wires in a single cable.

craz8 6y ago
Commercial solutions have a rechargeable battery and cycle one of the circuits occasionally to get power to recharge This can cause trouble Ecobee (probably others) provides a Doo-dad that wites into the furnace to help make this work
kube-system 6y ago
You can always run a new one. I bought new wire at Home Depot, tied it to the old cable, and pulled it down to the basement.
- gww 6y ago
  That only works if they didn't staple it to the wall or bury it in spray-foam insulation. I ended up having to run a new one but was lucky that the floor-board was under the garage. I ran a piece of cat5e as well in case there is ever an option to get a thermostat that can use it.
- IgorPartola 6y ago
  I have yet to see the wires that aren’t staples to the inside of walls. If it’s an option, great but IME it’s rarely an option.
  - kube-system 6y ago
    High voltage wiring has to be secured, by code, but low voltage thermostat wires don’t, so it’s more likely that you can pull them.
    - IgorPartola 6y ago
      Ok but if the roughly 15 thermostats I have replaced in 8 buildings it has always been secured.
maksum 6y ago
I wasn't a fan of messing with the thermostat housing but just now after pulling it off, I think my thermostat isn't anything fancy like that, just two black load and two red line wires. It's also important to note that my thermostat connects to baseboard heaters, not an HVAC system.
- IgorPartola 6y ago
  Even ones connected to fancy heating and cooling systems aren’t that complex and instructions are usually spot on. A simple heating system like you describe is, well, simple. Connect wires, get heat. I’m sure you can figure it out.