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You are betting that CDPR will put in its due dilligence to regain trust of consumers. If they fail to deliver in the next 12 months, future sales will be bad.

You are betting that CDPR will put in its due dilligence to regain trust of consumers. If they fail to deliver in the next 12 months, future sales will be bad. It’s rather pathetic that consumers give such leeway to irresponsible management.

lmm 6y ago
> If they fail to deliver in the next 12 months, future sales will be bad. Citation needed. In my experience gamers are very quick to forgive and forget a bad game and will still line up for the next hyped release from the same publisher/studio.
- willis936 6y ago
  TW3. CDPR dropped the ball (though not quite this hard) but pulled through within a year. No Man’s Sky missed that target but still managed to eventually have a (supposedly) decent product. Ask the average gamer how they feel about No Man’s Sky. Most other big budget case studies either completely failed, were decent within a year, or shipped in a complete state.
  - freeflight 6y ago
    Wasn't just TW3, pretty much every Witcher game had issues on release that where fixed over the following time period trough a combination of patching, free DLC and paid DLC, ultimately culminating in the enhanced editions. In that context CDPR has a very positive track record many people just flat out ignore; I've seen people on Reddit claim the game is an "unfixable mess" and how CDPR will just "cut their losses" by never patching it, it's inane beyond belief.
    - sdenton4 6y ago
      Yeah, for giant open world games I kinda just expect a year of bugs before it's actually pretty dialed in... Bethesda has done a lot of work to lower expectations in this genre.
    - willis936 6y ago
      This close to par for CDPR, but it clearly is below their par. The bad outcome is that they bit off more than they can chew and CP2077 takes too long to get to a good state or the “good state” is not good. The good outcome is that they make a decent looking product by the end of 2021 and gamers (maybe) forgive CDPR for releasing an unfinished game. There’s a large expectation of goodwill from both sides. Both sides have consistently demonstrated that goodwill, but that goodwill could sour.
mhh__ 6y ago
The game is apparently moddable, and given that it's the first game in years to really have that capability on this scale it could be around for a while a la old fallouts

lmm 6y ago

> If they fail to deliver in the next 12 months, future sales will be bad. Citation needed. In my experience gamers are very quick to forgive and forget a bad game and will still line up for the next hyped release from the same publisher/studio.

willis936 6y ago
TW3. CDPR dropped the ball (though not quite this hard) but pulled through within a year. No Man’s Sky missed that target but still managed to eventually have a (supposedly) decent product. Ask the average gamer how they feel about No Man’s Sky. Most other big budget case studies either completely failed, were decent within a year, or shipped in a complete state.
- freeflight 6y ago
  Wasn't just TW3, pretty much every Witcher game had issues on release that where fixed over the following time period trough a combination of patching, free DLC and paid DLC, ultimately culminating in the enhanced editions. In that context CDPR has a very positive track record many people just flat out ignore; I've seen people on Reddit claim the game is an "unfixable mess" and how CDPR will just "cut their losses" by never patching it, it's inane beyond belief.
  - sdenton4 6y ago
    Yeah, for giant open world games I kinda just expect a year of bugs before it's actually pretty dialed in... Bethesda has done a lot of work to lower expectations in this genre.
  - willis936 6y ago
    This close to par for CDPR, but it clearly is below their par. The bad outcome is that they bit off more than they can chew and CP2077 takes too long to get to a good state or the “good state” is not good. The good outcome is that they make a decent looking product by the end of 2021 and gamers (maybe) forgive CDPR for releasing an unfinished game. There’s a large expectation of goodwill from both sides. Both sides have consistently demonstrated that goodwill, but that goodwill could sour.

mhh__ 6y ago

The game is apparently moddable, and given that it's the first game in years to really have that capability on this scale it could be around for a while a la old fallouts