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My Windows 10 installation forcibly rebooted to install updates right in the middle of a 10+ hour overnight render.

6510 6y ago
"do you like this photo?" nooooo....
urnotcool 6y ago
To people that post this type of comment, do you not have qualms about announcing to the Internet that you repeatedly decline critical security updates for enough weeks that Windows forcibly installs them?
mfkp 6y ago
That's why you get Windows 10 Pro instead of Windows 10 Home.
- acuozzo 6y ago
  It's a Windows 10 Pro installation.
  - mfkp 6y ago
    Can you not schedule updates on Pro? Or change the option to not automatically reboot?
    - marcinzm 6y ago
      Not on mine in the UI, you can pause for 7 days or set hours to reboot during (but you need X hours per day that it can reboot during) but not have it disabled perpetually.
    - acuozzo 6y ago
      I did via the registry, but I later discovered that these changes reverted after updating. I now have my render box completely disconnected from the internet and I task it remotely.
    - rococode 6y ago
      You can make it not reboot with group policies, not commonly known though - most people try the registry stuff which doesn't seem to work consistently. Been running Win10 Pro for a couple years, never had a single unwanted reboot, once went nearly a year without doing a single update. Specifically, in group policy: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > "Configure Automatic Updates" and "No auto-restart with logged-on users for scheduled automatic update installations"
ActorNightly 6y ago
Pretty easy to fully disable updates.
- gnu8 6y ago
  Easy to do on a temporary basis but they will come back. I think even if you do 'sc delete wuauserv' it will eventually come back. Don't do that on a computer you care about...
- d3nj4l 6y ago
  You can't do that anymore. You can pause updates for a while, but eventually it'll start again.
- acuozzo 6y ago
  I did so via the registry, but my changes were reverted after updating.
marcinzm 6y ago
I just leave Final Fantasy 14 running in the background perpetually which stops windows from sleeping or running updates although it probably is helping kill the planet slightly faster as a result.
binarycrusader 6y ago
Personally, I'd prefer the system repeatedly prompt the user to restart to apply security updates (of which almost every update contains these days) instead of automatic restarts. It does try to apply those during what it believes are not "active hours", but it is not a perfect system. Until that happens, consider setting your active hours manually in the Update & Security -> Windows Update settings panel. The update system is designed to avoid automatic restarts during active hours. You can also pause updates for a period of time as well when you know that you don't want your system disrupted overnight. I empathize with your frustration around the timing and I would encourage you to file feedback asking for more control over when updates happen.
- acuozzo 6y ago
  Unfortunately, I often have renders that take way longer than 24 hours, so setting active hours wouldn't help much. With that being said, I now have the box in question completely disconnected from the internet and I task it remotely via serial.
  - NamTaf 6y ago
    Update & security options can pause updates for 35 days at a time.
bitbuilder 6y ago
I can't believe this is a thing. I recently switched back to Windows after deciding I wanted to play around with VR development (and honestly, get back into gaming) and was horrified to see a notice telling me my computer was going to reboot itself in one minute, with no way to abort. I was right in the middle of something, and my first instinct was to Google how to stop the damn reboot. Of course, my computer was already rebooting by then. I now know to turn on the setting to postpone updates for a month. But wow, I can't believe such unbelievably hostile UX is the out of the box experience. (Also, side note, I'm pleasantly surprised at how robust and hassle free the Windows experience has otherwise become. I may even prefer this laptop to my MacBook, which I never thought I'd find myself thinking in a million years.)
- justinclift 6y ago
  Wait until you find out it's updating your motherboard BIOS/firmware (it tells you when it starts doing it!), and there's no way to stop it. Not super great when the whole point of not upgrading to the latest BIOS was because it introduced a critical bug.
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    This only happens on Microsoft hardware though (or it is not Windows doing the update).
    - oses 6y ago
      UEFI updates can now be delivered by vendors thru Windows Update now : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/bringup/windows-uefi-firmware-update-platform https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/br...
      - lostmsu 6y ago
        Good to know. But do any PC manufacturers do that in practice?
    - 6y ago
jakopo87 6y ago
This should prevent automatic reboots: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/aavocr/after_6_months_of_testing_this_in_my_company_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/aavocr/after_6_mo...

6510 6y ago

"do you like this photo?" nooooo....

To people that post this type of comment, do you not have qualms about announcing to the Internet that you repeatedly decline critical security updates for enough weeks that Windows forcibly installs them?

mfkp 6y ago

That's why you get Windows 10 Pro instead of Windows 10 Home.

acuozzo 6y ago
It's a Windows 10 Pro installation.
- mfkp 6y ago
  Can you not schedule updates on Pro? Or change the option to not automatically reboot?
  - marcinzm 6y ago
    Not on mine in the UI, you can pause for 7 days or set hours to reboot during (but you need X hours per day that it can reboot during) but not have it disabled perpetually.
  - acuozzo 6y ago
    I did via the registry, but I later discovered that these changes reverted after updating. I now have my render box completely disconnected from the internet and I task it remotely.
  - rococode 6y ago
    You can make it not reboot with group policies, not commonly known though - most people try the registry stuff which doesn't seem to work consistently. Been running Win10 Pro for a couple years, never had a single unwanted reboot, once went nearly a year without doing a single update. Specifically, in group policy: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > "Configure Automatic Updates" and "No auto-restart with logged-on users for scheduled automatic update installations"

ActorNightly 6y ago

Pretty easy to fully disable updates.

gnu8 6y ago
Easy to do on a temporary basis but they will come back. I think even if you do 'sc delete wuauserv' it will eventually come back. Don't do that on a computer you care about...
d3nj4l 6y ago
You can't do that anymore. You can pause updates for a while, but eventually it'll start again.
acuozzo 6y ago
I did so via the registry, but my changes were reverted after updating.

marcinzm 6y ago

I just leave Final Fantasy 14 running in the background perpetually which stops windows from sleeping or running updates although it probably is helping kill the planet slightly faster as a result.

binarycrusader 6y ago

Personally, I'd prefer the system repeatedly prompt the user to restart to apply security updates (of which almost every update contains these days) instead of automatic restarts. It does try to apply those during what it believes are not "active hours", but it is not a perfect system. Until that happens, consider setting your active hours manually in the Update & Security -> Windows Update settings panel. The update system is designed to avoid automatic restarts during active hours. You can also pause updates for a period of time as well when you know that you don't want your system disrupted overnight. I empathize with your frustration around the timing and I would encourage you to file feedback asking for more control over when updates happen.

acuozzo 6y ago
Unfortunately, I often have renders that take way longer than 24 hours, so setting active hours wouldn't help much. With that being said, I now have the box in question completely disconnected from the internet and I task it remotely via serial.
- NamTaf 6y ago
  Update & security options can pause updates for 35 days at a time.

bitbuilder 6y ago

I can't believe this is a thing. I recently switched back to Windows after deciding I wanted to play around with VR development (and honestly, get back into gaming) and was horrified to see a notice telling me my computer was going to reboot itself in one minute, with no way to abort. I was right in the middle of something, and my first instinct was to Google how to stop the damn reboot. Of course, my computer was already rebooting by then. I now know to turn on the setting to postpone updates for a month. But wow, I can't believe such unbelievably hostile UX is the out of the box experience. (Also, side note, I'm pleasantly surprised at how robust and hassle free the Windows experience has otherwise become. I may even prefer this laptop to my MacBook, which I never thought I'd find myself thinking in a million years.)

justinclift 6y ago
Wait until you find out it's updating your motherboard BIOS/firmware (it tells you when it starts doing it!), and there's no way to stop it. Not super great when the whole point of not upgrading to the latest BIOS was because it introduced a critical bug.
- lostmsu 6y ago
  This only happens on Microsoft hardware though (or it is not Windows doing the update).
  - oses 6y ago
    UEFI updates can now be delivered by vendors thru Windows Update now : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/bringup/windows-uefi-firmware-update-platform https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/br...
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      Good to know. But do any PC manufacturers do that in practice?
  - 6y ago

jakopo87 6y ago

This should prevent automatic reboots: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/aavocr/after_6_months_of_testing_this_in_my_company_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/aavocr/after_6_mo...