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>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ 'Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission

• Shared404 6y ago
  A summary of this conversation so far: --- You've moved the goalpost: Masks don't work -> Some masks don't work. --- Sources you've provided: A paper that didn't cover the topic you were "refuting" with it: ( https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 ) A YouTube video from a "doctor" who has provided no certifications, claims to be non political and is promoting a debunked theory (hydroxychloroquine), and has fixed the typo I pointed out to you to you the other day, so congrats on that one. --- Topic you've not responded about: Death's. Both amount: ( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm ) And the rate increase demonstrated in the math earlier. --- Unless you can provide some more substantive evidence than "I feel" and "This rando on YouTube agrees with me", I don't see any reason to continue this conversation further. Edit: Formatting
  • matz1 6y ago
    > https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 from the results itself : Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection and from the conclusion : The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection > "This rando on YouTube agrees with me" In the YouTube I linked to She is a medical professional and she listed the research paper she referenced and we are not talking about hydroxychloroquine at all. >Both amount: ( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm ) So there is death to covid, i never refute this. What is the evidence that mask can reduce this death ?
    • Shared404 6y ago
      > from the results itself : Again, taken from the "Limitations" section: "no assessment of whether masks could decrease disease transmission from mask wearers to others." I never said that masks greatly help protect the individual, I said they help slow the spread of the pandemic. > She is a medical professional Any chance you could link me to here credentials then? Has she authored any peer reviewed papers? Actually, I'll look her up. Presuming this [0] is her, she appears to have participated in... no peer reviewed research. In addition, on this [1] website, she both claims to be non political, and to have appeared on this list of shows... "The Tucker Carlson Show, The Ingraham Angle, The Glenn Beck Show, The Charlie Kirk Show, The Dennis Prager Show, Day Star Television" So, despite her being an obvious liar, at least she is an emergency medical professional, I'll give her that. A shame she's not a virologist. > What is the evidence that mask can reduce this death ? We've been over this as well. Masks reduce pandemic reduces death. Do you have any other sources? --- [0] https://www.docinfo.org/search/docprofile?docid=CA796BDA-28F3-4687-996A-83582FC40E7E&docname=Simone%20Gold&usstate=&practype=all https://www.docinfo.org/search/docprofile?docid=CA796BDA-28F... [1] https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/mission-statement/ https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/mission-statement/