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If I got paid in tokens at a startup, I would riot. That’s some “company town” bullshit.

fastball 6y ago
Did you not know about the tokens when you were hired? Why is your first reaction to "riot" instead of just "quit"? Unless it's in your contract, you don't deserve a bonus.
- aspaceman 6y ago
  Because I want to. It’s my job, and I’d like to keep it. I take great pride in my position. I do graphics programming myself, and those jobs aren’t exactly numerous. Quitting is for cowards.
  - jokethrowaway 6y ago
    I hope you'll reconsider your position because it greatly benefits your employer. You don't have to be your job. I wish you well.
  - Godel_unicode 6y ago
    > Quitting is for cowards No, quiting is for people who want something they don't have. Loss-aversion is a very powerful force, especially in the hands of senior leadership.
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- blackearl 6y ago
  I can't imagine HR going into it any more than "there is possible bonus compensation" when hiring.
  - Godel_unicode 6y ago
    My company's HR people and recruiter both spelled out the bonus plans in great detail (cash vs equity, what you're rated on, typical amounts for my incoming level, etc etc). Don't just accept wishy-washy answers, this stuff matters.
    - sk5t 6y ago
      That would still have been a description of the company's nice intentions, and not a contract/legal promise.
- freshhawk 6y ago
  Why, when someone tries to take advantage of you, is your first reaction to retreat?
  - fastball 6y ago
    If I knew about the tokens before I was hired, no advantage is taken. Honestly not even sure I agree that you're being taken advantage of if the policy is enacted after your hiring. A bonus is a bonus. It is given out at the companies discretion, unless stipulated in your employment contract.
  - Alupis 6y ago
    > If I got paid in tokens at a startup, I would riot. >> Why is your first reaction to "riot" instead of just "quit"? >>> Why, when someone tries to take advantage of you, is your first reaction to retreat? Because, "rioting" when you don't get your way is... unprofessional?
FartyMcFarter 6y ago
It's just a bonus, not regular compensation, right?

Did you not know about the tokens when you were hired? Why is your first reaction to "riot" instead of just "quit"? Unless it's in your contract, you don't deserve a bonus.

aspaceman 6y ago
Because I want to. It’s my job, and I’d like to keep it. I take great pride in my position. I do graphics programming myself, and those jobs aren’t exactly numerous. Quitting is for cowards.
- jokethrowaway 6y ago
  I hope you'll reconsider your position because it greatly benefits your employer. You don't have to be your job. I wish you well.
- Godel_unicode 6y ago
  > Quitting is for cowards No, quiting is for people who want something they don't have. Loss-aversion is a very powerful force, especially in the hands of senior leadership.
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blackearl 6y ago
I can't imagine HR going into it any more than "there is possible bonus compensation" when hiring.
- Godel_unicode 6y ago
  My company's HR people and recruiter both spelled out the bonus plans in great detail (cash vs equity, what you're rated on, typical amounts for my incoming level, etc etc). Don't just accept wishy-washy answers, this stuff matters.
  - sk5t 6y ago
    That would still have been a description of the company's nice intentions, and not a contract/legal promise.
freshhawk 6y ago
Why, when someone tries to take advantage of you, is your first reaction to retreat?
- fastball 6y ago
  If I knew about the tokens before I was hired, no advantage is taken. Honestly not even sure I agree that you're being taken advantage of if the policy is enacted after your hiring. A bonus is a bonus. It is given out at the companies discretion, unless stipulated in your employment contract.
- Alupis 6y ago
  > If I got paid in tokens at a startup, I would riot. >> Why is your first reaction to "riot" instead of just "quit"? >>> Why, when someone tries to take advantage of you, is your first reaction to retreat? Because, "rioting" when you don't get your way is... unprofessional?

FartyMcFarter 6y ago

It's just a bonus, not regular compensation, right?