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There is a lot more porn on Youtube and Facebook, but we never heard of Visa and Mastercard cutting of their credit card services to those 2 giants. Pornhub is

There is a lot more porn on Youtube and Facebook, but we never heard of Visa and Mastercard cutting of their credit card services to those 2 giants. Pornhub is an easy target especially for those leftist activists and extortionists who make lots of noises in the "respected" media outlets.

spzb 6y ago
> There is a lot more porn on Youtube and Facebook Seems unlikely. I presume you have a source for that assertion. And anyway, as I said, Visa and Mastercard acted in response to allegations of illegal content not just the fact that there was porn > leftist activists and extortionists who make lots of noises in the "respected" media outlets I think that might just be in your head.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  Facebook's own internal reviews identified more items of child abuse content that made their way onto Facebook in the last 3 years than PornHub had total items at its peak, by about 5 times. PornHub isn't under attack because of child porn, or non-consensual porn, it's under attack by people who think porn is inherently bad, and who have found that they don't need to convince people to agree with them as long as they can make it seem like their targets are particular venues for content that is uncontroversially bad, which inevitably involves distortion and ignoring mainstream venues that are much more significant channels for the problem they want to pretend to be fighting.
gamblor956 6y ago
Youtube and Facebook get away with it because they're not primarily porn sites; they're social networking and the vast majority of users use it for normal non-porn purposes. Moreover, while they had vast quantities of porn, they're also huge sites and most of their users don't use the site for porn. PornHub is just porn. And they've been on notice for years that CP and non-consensual videos are being uploaded to their system yet don't very little to stop it. They claim that they have filters and other systems in place to stop illegal uploads, but those systems are so useless that PH claimed they had 0 illegal porn on their website, when that was demonstrably false prior to them removing all unverified user-uploaded content.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  Personally, I think it's a problem that a social networking or video sharing site that isn't a porn site has vastly more child and other non-consensual porn than slips by at the world’s largest dedicated porn network of sites. The only reason I can see for not be concerned more about the former than the latter is that the concern about CP/non-consent is feigned and the real concern is about legitimate porn, with the CP/non-consent as merely convenient pretext. Which is also consistent with those concerns becoming more shrill when the porn site takes drastic action to deal with the problem which removes the pretext.
- buisi 6y ago
  Where did they say they have absolutely zero illegal porn?

spzb 6y ago

> There is a lot more porn on Youtube and Facebook Seems unlikely. I presume you have a source for that assertion. And anyway, as I said, Visa and Mastercard acted in response to allegations of illegal content not just the fact that there was porn > leftist activists and extortionists who make lots of noises in the "respected" media outlets I think that might just be in your head.

dragonwriter 6y ago
Facebook's own internal reviews identified more items of child abuse content that made their way onto Facebook in the last 3 years than PornHub had total items at its peak, by about 5 times. PornHub isn't under attack because of child porn, or non-consensual porn, it's under attack by people who think porn is inherently bad, and who have found that they don't need to convince people to agree with them as long as they can make it seem like their targets are particular venues for content that is uncontroversially bad, which inevitably involves distortion and ignoring mainstream venues that are much more significant channels for the problem they want to pretend to be fighting.

gamblor956 6y ago

Youtube and Facebook get away with it because they're not primarily porn sites; they're social networking and the vast majority of users use it for normal non-porn purposes. Moreover, while they had vast quantities of porn, they're also huge sites and most of their users don't use the site for porn. PornHub is just porn. And they've been on notice for years that CP and non-consensual videos are being uploaded to their system yet don't very little to stop it. They claim that they have filters and other systems in place to stop illegal uploads, but those systems are so useless that PH claimed they had 0 illegal porn on their website, when that was demonstrably false prior to them removing all unverified user-uploaded content.

dragonwriter 6y ago
Personally, I think it's a problem that a social networking or video sharing site that isn't a porn site has vastly more child and other non-consensual porn than slips by at the world’s largest dedicated porn network of sites. The only reason I can see for not be concerned more about the former than the latter is that the concern about CP/non-consent is feigned and the real concern is about legitimate porn, with the CP/non-consent as merely convenient pretext. Which is also consistent with those concerns becoming more shrill when the porn site takes drastic action to deal with the problem which removes the pretext.
buisi 6y ago
Where did they say they have absolutely zero illegal porn?