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Good point. :) The statement makes sense to me, though. The iPhone store shows that a market exists for apps for a specific, popular, walled-off platform with a

by gcv 18y ago

Good point. :) The statement makes sense to me, though. The iPhone store shows that a market exists for apps for a specific, popular, walled-off platform with a unified storefront. Other mobile platforms don't have anything like that, do they (Palm, Windows Mobile, Symbian)? As for desktop platforms: Windows users either pirate their software, or have their employers buy it for them (for the humor-impaired, that's an exaggeration and a joke). Mac users pay for their software, but are a fairly small demographic. Linux users use free software almost exclusively.

Tichy 18y ago
So having just one shop is supposed to be better than the option for multiple shops? I still don't understand why??? I can understand if users want a shop they can trust, which Apple could deliver with their iTunes shop. But how would it hurt users if there were also other shops? The paranoid ones simply would not use those other shops.
- unalone 18y ago
  Because it enables quality control and simplicity. It means that people looking for an app only have to look in one place, and after that their job is done. Enabling multiple sites means removing possibilities for quality control and making the download process something less than a "click once" process.
  - Tichy 18y ago
    Why - the quality obsessed could just stick to the Apple shop, the existence of other shops doesn't prevent that?
    - unalone 18y ago
      No, no. Apple INSISTS on quality products. They don't care if YOU would compromise. They won't let you. I'm guessing you don't use a Mac, or keep close with Mac users. The attitude is entirely one-sided: it's all about quality, period. Many Mac users eschew Firefox for Safari, because the one is so much better-made, even if it doesn't let you use StumbleUpon and whatnot. Word 2008 is attacked by Mac users for feeling too much like Windows. Even the App Store is being attacked right now for being too LOW-standards. Apple's idea is this: if your idea is too poor to be displayed on their store, you should design for something that isn't working with Apple software. That's not a disadvantage. It's a mindset that ensures top-notch design, time and time again. It's why most people will pick up an Apple product and assume that it works well. It's because Apple controls everything, and because that's a good thing.
      - Tichy 18y ago
        By that logic, Apple should lock OS X and make it impossible to install anything that doesn't go through Apple. I'd like to see how that would go down. Also, I thought Apple promised to let basically every application into the store? Without that, it would be mad to develop for the iPhone. It would be a huge gamble, spending maybe 5 digit sums or more only to hear that you did not live up to Apple's standards and can throw your application into the garbage bin. Maybe there is another reason: maybe sales of mobile applications are a huge market, and Apple simply doesn't want to share.

by gcv 18y ago

Tichy 18y ago

So having just one shop is supposed to be better than the option for multiple shops? I still don't understand why??? I can understand if users want a shop they can trust, which Apple could deliver with their iTunes shop. But how would it hurt users if there were also other shops? The paranoid ones simply would not use those other shops.

unalone 18y ago
Because it enables quality control and simplicity. It means that people looking for an app only have to look in one place, and after that their job is done. Enabling multiple sites means removing possibilities for quality control and making the download process something less than a "click once" process.
- Tichy 18y ago
  Why - the quality obsessed could just stick to the Apple shop, the existence of other shops doesn't prevent that?
  - unalone 18y ago
    No, no. Apple INSISTS on quality products. They don't care if YOU would compromise. They won't let you. I'm guessing you don't use a Mac, or keep close with Mac users. The attitude is entirely one-sided: it's all about quality, period. Many Mac users eschew Firefox for Safari, because the one is so much better-made, even if it doesn't let you use StumbleUpon and whatnot. Word 2008 is attacked by Mac users for feeling too much like Windows. Even the App Store is being attacked right now for being too LOW-standards. Apple's idea is this: if your idea is too poor to be displayed on their store, you should design for something that isn't working with Apple software. That's not a disadvantage. It's a mindset that ensures top-notch design, time and time again. It's why most people will pick up an Apple product and assume that it works well. It's because Apple controls everything, and because that's a good thing.
    - Tichy 18y ago
      By that logic, Apple should lock OS X and make it impossible to install anything that doesn't go through Apple. I'd like to see how that would go down. Also, I thought Apple promised to let basically every application into the store? Without that, it would be mad to develop for the iPhone. It would be a huge gamble, spending maybe 5 digit sums or more only to hear that you did not live up to Apple's standards and can throw your application into the garbage bin. Maybe there is another reason: maybe sales of mobile applications are a huge market, and Apple simply doesn't want to share.