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That's injecting a lot of malicious intent into what I said. I don't think making an unreasonably dark assumption about someone's intent is a good reason to tre

That's injecting a lot of malicious intent into what I said. I don't think making an unreasonably dark assumption about someone's intent is a good reason to treat them with hostility.

dang 6y ago
I believe you about your intent, but the problem is that we have to judge these things by the effect that they produce in threads. Intent doesn't communicate itself, unfortunately, and if a comment takes a flamey or trollish form, that's the sort of effect it's likely to produce. So the burden is on each of us to disambiguate our intent. It doesn't happen automatically. Probably the most reliable way to do that is to include enough markers of good intent in a comment to shift its pH a bit. Here are some previous explanations in case they're helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=troll%20effects%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=disambiguate%20burden%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22expected%20value%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
- byecomputer 6y ago
  Fair enough, I got the impression that the user who called me snarky was gaming the rules to get my comment deleted, so I was a bit annoyed. After the first page, their comment history is mostly sarcastic and demeaning remarks, so it was clear to me that they simply didn't like what I said for personal reasons. I realize it doesn't make a difference and perhaps you reached your conclusion independently of their remark, but I was understandably a little miffed and felt like I got played. Regardless, I'll remain conscious of what you said.
  - mav3rick 6y ago
    I didn't create some elaborate ruse to bury your comment. I'm not that smart. I just called what I saw. Tomorrow if you write a comment I agree with, I would judge it independently.
    - byecomputer 6y ago
      I don't wanna do-si-do, it's not a big deal. What I meant wasn't some pointed or venomous criticism, it was more or less, "The best laid schemes of mice and men / often go awry." That's all.

That's injecting a lot of malicious intent into what I said. I don't think making an unreasonably dark assumption about someone's intent is a good reason to treat them with hostility.

dang 6y ago

I believe you about your intent, but the problem is that we have to judge these things by the effect that they produce in threads. Intent doesn't communicate itself, unfortunately, and if a comment takes a flamey or trollish form, that's the sort of effect it's likely to produce. So the burden is on each of us to disambiguate our intent. It doesn't happen automatically. Probably the most reliable way to do that is to include enough markers of good intent in a comment to shift its pH a bit. Here are some previous explanations in case they're helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=troll%20effects%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=disambiguate%20burden%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22expected%20value%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

byecomputer 6y ago
Fair enough, I got the impression that the user who called me snarky was gaming the rules to get my comment deleted, so I was a bit annoyed. After the first page, their comment history is mostly sarcastic and demeaning remarks, so it was clear to me that they simply didn't like what I said for personal reasons. I realize it doesn't make a difference and perhaps you reached your conclusion independently of their remark, but I was understandably a little miffed and felt like I got played. Regardless, I'll remain conscious of what you said.
- mav3rick 6y ago
  I didn't create some elaborate ruse to bury your comment. I'm not that smart. I just called what I saw. Tomorrow if you write a comment I agree with, I would judge it independently.
  - byecomputer 6y ago
    I don't wanna do-si-do, it's not a big deal. What I meant wasn't some pointed or venomous criticism, it was more or less, "The best laid schemes of mice and men / often go awry." That's all.