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I’ve personally seen this repeatedly, and people have their heads so far in the ideological sand that they downvote you for some reason. It’s true, “independent

I’ve personally seen this repeatedly, and people have their heads so far in the ideological sand that they downvote you for some reason. It’s true, “independent journalists” wearing PRESS are basically an in-joke in the PNW. If there is one thing they are great at, it’s propaganda. They somehow managed to convince the rest of the country that they’re the good guys and the good guys are violent racists. Nothing could be further from the truth.

mitjak 6y ago
care to provide any sort of evidence?
- j_walter 6y ago
  If you need some evidence of what is actually happening, then I recommend following Andy Ngo on Twitter. It's certainly only one view point of the protests that are going on, but its a side you won't see covered anywhere else.
  - SauciestGNU 6y ago
    Any credible sources? Andy Ngo is a propagandist for atomwaffen and heavily edits what he releases to strip it of context and present a narrative that is often directly contrary to the truth.
    - j_walter 6y ago
      How do you define credible? Someone that releases information that you agree with? His videos are often releases of what Antifa publishes and rarely of his own recording (mostly because he has been violently attacked in the past by them). Stop excluding sources because you don't like the information...take in as much data as possible and make your own conclusion. When protestors are going into residential neighborhoods and causing conflict with people that are minding their own business...or throwing fireworks or other projectiles at the police...you can't say that's not happening and is contrary to the truth.
      - SauciestGNU 6y ago
        > because he has been violently attacked in the past by them Oh of course, how could I forget the milkshake that gave him brain damage? He's a liar and a partisan even moreso than the citizen-journalists being criticized in the thread.
        lawnchair_larry 6y ago
        Now who is making things up? You’re either knowingly lying about the assault by pretending he claimed a milkshake injured him, or you’re very misinformed. And no, he has nothing to do with atomwaffen or any other hate group whatsoever. You know that white supremacists don’t accept gay vietnamese people right? Partisan, interesting epithet though. As if you yourself and virtually everyone else, especially antifa, isn’t partisan? He seems to repost videos recorded by antifa people (which irrationally upsets them). There is no need to trust him, the videos are there, as are the mugshots and arrest records. Which definitely show a theme.
j_walter 6y ago
Yeah and I don't care if people down vote me. That won't make me change my mind or change the things I have personally witnessed. If people wish to believe the MSM reporting then fine, but I won't be bullied into changing my mind. There are bad guys on both sides, but the ones I've seen being most violent are attacking cops and people that are expressing their freedom of speech while staying within the law...all while crying poor me the cops used teargas (some were even caught on video setting fires before this).

mitjak 6y ago

care to provide any sort of evidence?

j_walter 6y ago
If you need some evidence of what is actually happening, then I recommend following Andy Ngo on Twitter. It's certainly only one view point of the protests that are going on, but its a side you won't see covered anywhere else.
- SauciestGNU 6y ago
  Any credible sources? Andy Ngo is a propagandist for atomwaffen and heavily edits what he releases to strip it of context and present a narrative that is often directly contrary to the truth.
  - j_walter 6y ago
    How do you define credible? Someone that releases information that you agree with? His videos are often releases of what Antifa publishes and rarely of his own recording (mostly because he has been violently attacked in the past by them). Stop excluding sources because you don't like the information...take in as much data as possible and make your own conclusion. When protestors are going into residential neighborhoods and causing conflict with people that are minding their own business...or throwing fireworks or other projectiles at the police...you can't say that's not happening and is contrary to the truth.
    - SauciestGNU 6y ago
      > because he has been violently attacked in the past by them Oh of course, how could I forget the milkshake that gave him brain damage? He's a liar and a partisan even moreso than the citizen-journalists being criticized in the thread.
      - lawnchair_larry 6y ago
        Now who is making things up? You’re either knowingly lying about the assault by pretending he claimed a milkshake injured him, or you’re very misinformed. And no, he has nothing to do with atomwaffen or any other hate group whatsoever. You know that white supremacists don’t accept gay vietnamese people right? Partisan, interesting epithet though. As if you yourself and virtually everyone else, especially antifa, isn’t partisan? He seems to repost videos recorded by antifa people (which irrationally upsets them). There is no need to trust him, the videos are there, as are the mugshots and arrest records. Which definitely show a theme.

j_walter 6y ago

Yeah and I don't care if people down vote me. That won't make me change my mind or change the things I have personally witnessed. If people wish to believe the MSM reporting then fine, but I won't be bullied into changing my mind. There are bad guys on both sides, but the ones I've seen being most violent are attacking cops and people that are expressing their freedom of speech while staying within the law...all while crying poor me the cops used teargas (some were even caught on video setting fires before this).