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That seems awfully defeatist. Spotify is winning in music, for example. And that's certainly a case where the different languages make a big difference. Europe

by xxpor 6y ago

That seems awfully defeatist. Spotify is winning in music, for example. And that's certainly a case where the different languages make a big difference. European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate. And that's the root of the tech issues, in that the culture doesn't foster risk taking.

martindbp 6y ago
> That seems awfully defeatist. Spotify is winning in music, for example I'm just a realist. Spotify is not big by comparison. I just looked up a list of the 30 most highly valuated America, and the least valuable was bigger than Spotify. > European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate I've lived in both and it's just no comparison. What differences you find within the US you find within single European countries. The fact is that an American startup can target a huge, homogeneous and rich country with barely any extra work.
wayoutthere 6y ago
> European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate. And that's the root of the tech issues, in that the culture doesn't foster risk taking. It's also a lot different than American culture -- I've long maintained that as far as cultural attitudes and preferences go, a person from New York has more in common with someone from Mexico City or Sao Paolo than someone from Paris or London.
- jawzz 6y ago
  > as far as cultural attitudes and preferences go, a person from New York has more in common with someone from Mexico City or Sao Paolo than someone from Paris or London. Interesting—do you mind expanding on this?
avianlyric 6y ago
> Spotify is winning in music, for example. Jury's still out on that one, Apple Music is making very large in roads, and Spotify is starting to struggle. It quite possible for the statement "the US have greater cultural homogeneity than the EU" to true alongside the statement: > European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate. And I would argue that's exactly the case. Having been in startup that seriously looked at expanding in the US vs expanding in the rest of the EU (it expanded into the US), I'm confident to say the US is far more homogenous. Interestingly that doesn't necessarily mean that it's easier for an EU company to expand the US rather than the EU. But it does mean that EU startups have a much larger bump in the road than US companies when they're expanding.
- meragrin_ 6y ago
  > Jury's still out on that one, Apple Music is making very large in roads, and Spotify is starting to struggle. Large in roads amongst Apple customers or large in roads to the general market?
fumar 6y ago
Spotify has advertising and does sell its abilities to target segments of users.
Dirlewanger 6y ago
Scandinavian countries have higher rates of entrepreneurship the US. No one cares about that though...
- xxpor 6y ago
  This fits in with my pet theory that universal healthcare would actually result in a huge explosion of entrepreneurship in the US.

by xxpor 6y ago

martindbp 6y ago

> That seems awfully defeatist. Spotify is winning in music, for example I'm just a realist. Spotify is not big by comparison. I just looked up a list of the 30 most highly valuated America, and the least valuable was bigger than Spotify. > European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate I've lived in both and it's just no comparison. What differences you find within the US you find within single European countries. The fact is that an American startup can target a huge, homogeneous and rich country with barely any extra work.

wayoutthere 6y ago

> European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate. And that's the root of the tech issues, in that the culture doesn't foster risk taking. It's also a lot different than American culture -- I've long maintained that as far as cultural attitudes and preferences go, a person from New York has more in common with someone from Mexico City or Sao Paolo than someone from Paris or London.

jawzz 6y ago
> as far as cultural attitudes and preferences go, a person from New York has more in common with someone from Mexico City or Sao Paolo than someone from Paris or London. Interesting—do you mind expanding on this?

avianlyric 6y ago

> Spotify is winning in music, for example. Jury's still out on that one, Apple Music is making very large in roads, and Spotify is starting to struggle. It quite possible for the statement "the US have greater cultural homogeneity than the EU" to true alongside the statement: > European culture is more homogeneous than I think a lot of people in Europe appreciate. And I would argue that's exactly the case. Having been in startup that seriously looked at expanding in the US vs expanding in the rest of the EU (it expanded into the US), I'm confident to say the US is far more homogenous. Interestingly that doesn't necessarily mean that it's easier for an EU company to expand the US rather than the EU. But it does mean that EU startups have a much larger bump in the road than US companies when they're expanding.

meragrin_ 6y ago
> Jury's still out on that one, Apple Music is making very large in roads, and Spotify is starting to struggle. Large in roads amongst Apple customers or large in roads to the general market?

fumar 6y ago

Spotify has advertising and does sell its abilities to target segments of users.

Dirlewanger 6y ago

Scandinavian countries have higher rates of entrepreneurship the US. No one cares about that though...

xxpor 6y ago
This fits in with my pet theory that universal healthcare would actually result in a huge explosion of entrepreneurship in the US.