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Why install Ubuntu when you could install the vastly superior Arch Linux?

eindiran 6y ago
Because not everyone wants to live on the bleeding edge. Because typing ‘pacman -Syu’ 7 times a week gets annoying. Because you want to use the apt/.deb package ecosystem. Because Ubuntu is easier to install, and doesn’t require you to make a huge number of choices about what packages to install. Because you want to use Proton, Lutris and Steam without needing to patch things. Because most $BIGCORP orgs don’t realize that there are ecosystems besides .deb and .rpm. Because Ubuntu is what you already know. Don’t get me wrong: I am a big fan of Arch, but there are a lot of reasons to not prefer it over Ubuntu.
- Lammy 6y ago
  Is it irony, then, that ChromeOS is based on Gentoo? :v
  - yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
    Not really; Gentoo isn't "bleeding edge" the way arch is (unless you explicitly configure it that way), and Google builds it into a "final product" that's ready-to-use without configuring.
  - awill 6y ago
    ChromeOS isn't based on Gentoo at all. They might share some underlying code. But they're not related at all.
    - snazz 6y ago
      More than just underlying code; it's directly based on Gentoo and it uses Portage. See the first line of the Wikipedia article on Chrome OS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS
      - awill 6y ago
        That's not what I meant. Sure, underneath it shared tech. But when people think of Gentoo, they think 'build from source' and get every kernel dot release etc.. ChromeOS isn't related in that sense.
- OJFord 6y ago
  > Because not everyone wants to live on the bleeding edge. Because typing ‘pacman -Syu’ 7 times a week gets annoying. I think I can solve both of those with one stone..!
arch-ninja 6y ago
As someone who started w/ Ubuntu, distro-hopped around for 6 years of my childhood, and has for the past 4 years used Arch: Linux describes a spectrum of experiences, and .DEB-based systems are the soda and potato chips of the gourmet linux feast. Fedora is a sandwich, Manjaro might be steak. Arch is kind of an empty kitchen with a ton of stuff in it, and Gentoo is a legendary chef on top of a mountain someplace. tl;dr - it's fine to snack on potato chips, but don't expect people to all want to eat the same thing. Variety is powerful.

Because not everyone wants to live on the bleeding edge. Because typing ‘pacman -Syu’ 7 times a week gets annoying. Because you want to use the apt/.deb package ecosystem. Because Ubuntu is easier to install, and doesn’t require you to make a huge number of choices about what packages to install. Because you want to use Proton, Lutris and Steam without needing to patch things. Because most $BIGCORP orgs don’t realize that there are ecosystems besides .deb and .rpm. Because Ubuntu is what you already know. Don’t get me wrong: I am a big fan of Arch, but there are a lot of reasons to not prefer it over Ubuntu.

Lammy 6y ago
Is it irony, then, that ChromeOS is based on Gentoo? :v
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y ago
  Not really; Gentoo isn't "bleeding edge" the way arch is (unless you explicitly configure it that way), and Google builds it into a "final product" that's ready-to-use without configuring.
- awill 6y ago
  ChromeOS isn't based on Gentoo at all. They might share some underlying code. But they're not related at all.
  - snazz 6y ago
    More than just underlying code; it's directly based on Gentoo and it uses Portage. See the first line of the Wikipedia article on Chrome OS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_OS
    - awill 6y ago
      That's not what I meant. Sure, underneath it shared tech. But when people think of Gentoo, they think 'build from source' and get every kernel dot release etc.. ChromeOS isn't related in that sense.
OJFord 6y ago
> Because not everyone wants to live on the bleeding edge. Because typing ‘pacman -Syu’ 7 times a week gets annoying. I think I can solve both of those with one stone..!

arch-ninja 6y ago

As someone who started w/ Ubuntu, distro-hopped around for 6 years of my childhood, and has for the past 4 years used Arch: Linux describes a spectrum of experiences, and .DEB-based systems are the soda and potato chips of the gourmet linux feast. Fedora is a sandwich, Manjaro might be steak. Arch is kind of an empty kitchen with a ton of stuff in it, and Gentoo is a legendary chef on top of a mountain someplace. tl;dr - it's fine to snack on potato chips, but don't expect people to all want to eat the same thing. Variety is powerful.